Looking at buying my 1st caravan
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Hi looking at buying a used caravan to get us started, ideally i want something small and light so i can get used to towing.
It will be used for odd uk wk'd and and 2 wks in france every year.
I have a budget of around £6k and needs to have bathroom and least 2 beds.
My plan was to buy something that holds its money so i could trade up in the future when more confident.
What makes are a good used buy and what should i be looking for when buying?
many thanks
It will be used for odd uk wk'd and and 2 wks in france every year.
I have a budget of around £6k and needs to have bathroom and least 2 beds.
My plan was to buy something that holds its money so i could trade up in the future when more confident.
What makes are a good used buy and what should i be looking for when buying?
many thanks
I can't really help with your query O.P. but we have been looking at getting a caravan as an upgrade from camping and have a similar budget in mind.
At that price our choice seems mostly to be caravans from 2004 - 2006, obviously dependent upon the manufacturer and model for the size we want. I am put off from older vans and the potential for damp concerns me. But know nothing about caravans, or how easy it is to sort out the problems they may suffer from.
We have looked at a couple of local retailers but they have been keen to get us into new old season caravans rather than used. Having never been on holiday in a tourer (or towed anything) I am no going to do that.
Some of the German brands of caravan look good such as Adria, Hymer and Geist, but they seem more expensive than their UK counterparts.
It would be interesting to know if there is a caravan 'league table' of brands, ie which is a value brand which is premium brand. Like cars, which is the Dacia compared to which is the Rolls Royce (not wanting to start and argument about which cars are better than others).
I have noticed that there are some brands which are primarily for professional caravan dwellers such as Hobby, Tabert and Fendt.
I hope that experienced caravanners can add to this thread as I am interested in the answers you may get.
At that price our choice seems mostly to be caravans from 2004 - 2006, obviously dependent upon the manufacturer and model for the size we want. I am put off from older vans and the potential for damp concerns me. But know nothing about caravans, or how easy it is to sort out the problems they may suffer from.
We have looked at a couple of local retailers but they have been keen to get us into new old season caravans rather than used. Having never been on holiday in a tourer (or towed anything) I am no going to do that.
Some of the German brands of caravan look good such as Adria, Hymer and Geist, but they seem more expensive than their UK counterparts.
It would be interesting to know if there is a caravan 'league table' of brands, ie which is a value brand which is premium brand. Like cars, which is the Dacia compared to which is the Rolls Royce (not wanting to start and argument about which cars are better than others).
I have noticed that there are some brands which are primarily for professional caravan dwellers such as Hobby, Tabert and Fendt.
I hope that experienced caravanners can add to this thread as I am interested in the answers you may get.
We've just bought our first 'van (as a family - I caravanned throughout my childhood and always enjoyed it), and initially had a similar budget to yourselves. What we found is that we really struggled to find something that was in good condition and had been looked after. Based on what a dealer described as very good condition, I came to the conclusion that either I had unrealistic expectations of what I could get for the budget, or that other people don't look after their property and seem to be perfectly happy paying (what I consider to be) a lot of money for something that isn't that nice. Example, we were looking at a 2005 Bailey Ranger (priced at ~£5,500)at one of the larger dealerships in the south west. I'd rung up prior to travelling as they were 100 miles from us, and the salesman assured me it was in 'lovely' condition. Externally it was fine, internally it smelled unpleasant, the enamel in the kitchen sink had a chip in it, the hob supports were rusty, the seat cushions lacked any support, the bathroom sink was badly stained, shower tray cracked, I could go on. This wasn't an isolated incident based on viewing many different vans at a similar price. I don't want to put you off however, because there are nice vans out there (the first van we saw was a 2001 Elddis up for £3.5k and it was in beautiful condition, took a couple of days to mull it over (not wanting to buy the first we saw) and it had sold..), but at this price point, you do have to hunt them down.
I'd recommend getting yourself a damp meter (read up on damp in caravans if you are unaware) - we very nearly put a deposit down on 2006 Bailey Ranger (being sold privately) that was in very good condition superficially, and discovered it was pretty rotten around the roof near the front just before handing over the cash.
At the risk of writing an entire novel here and for what it's worth, we wound up doubling the budget as we'd found a 2012 van with a layout that fitted our needs perfectly and was immaculate. To us, it felt like better value for money, and considering how slowly they depreciate, if we found out that we didn't use it and sold it after a couple of years, we wouldn't lose much more than £2k. Additionally, having a van we happy in means we are more likely to get our money's worth in using it. Basically, I'd suggest getting the best you can afford (but don't forget to keep some aside for all the kit, awning, etc).
In regards to a league table of brands, everyone will have their own opinion on this, and several manufacturers have multiple brands (and ranges within those brands) which muddies the water, but below is how I'd rank them:
Rolls Royce / Bentley:
Airstream
Vanmaster
Merc / BMW / Audi
Coachman
Buccaneer
VW
Swift / Sterling
Lunar
Elddis
Ford
Bailey
Dacia
Xplore
Sprite
I'd recommend getting yourself a damp meter (read up on damp in caravans if you are unaware) - we very nearly put a deposit down on 2006 Bailey Ranger (being sold privately) that was in very good condition superficially, and discovered it was pretty rotten around the roof near the front just before handing over the cash.
At the risk of writing an entire novel here and for what it's worth, we wound up doubling the budget as we'd found a 2012 van with a layout that fitted our needs perfectly and was immaculate. To us, it felt like better value for money, and considering how slowly they depreciate, if we found out that we didn't use it and sold it after a couple of years, we wouldn't lose much more than £2k. Additionally, having a van we happy in means we are more likely to get our money's worth in using it. Basically, I'd suggest getting the best you can afford (but don't forget to keep some aside for all the kit, awning, etc).
In regards to a league table of brands, everyone will have their own opinion on this, and several manufacturers have multiple brands (and ranges within those brands) which muddies the water, but below is how I'd rank them:
Rolls Royce / Bentley:
Airstream
Vanmaster
Merc / BMW / Audi
Coachman
Buccaneer
VW
Swift / Sterling
Lunar
Elddis
Ford
Bailey
Dacia
Xplore
Sprite
Edited by JeffreyLebowski on Monday 14th March 13:19
JeffreyLebowski said:
We've just bought our first 'van (as a family - I caravanned throughout my childhood and always enjoyed it), and initially had a similar budget to yourselves. What we found is that we really struggled to find something that was in good condition and had been looked after. Based on what a dealer described as very good condition, I came to the conclusion that either I had unrealistic expectations of what I could get for the budget, or that other people don't look after their property and seem to be perfectly happy paying (what I consider to be) a lot of money for something that isn't that nice. Example, we were looking at a 2005 Bailey Ranger (priced at ~£5,500)at one of the larger dealerships in the south west. I'd rung up prior to travelling as they were 100 miles from us, and the salesman assured me it was in 'lovely' condition. Externally it was fine, internally it smelled unpleasant, the enamel in the kitchen sink had a chip in it, the hob supports were rusty, the seat cushions lacked any support, the bathroom sink was badly stained, shower tray cracked, I could go on. This wasn't an isolated incident based on viewing many different vans at a similar price. I don't want to put you off however, because there are nice vans out there (the first van we saw was a 2001 Elddis up for £3.5k and it was in beautiful condition, took a couple of days to mull it over (not wanting to buy the first we saw) and it had sold..), but at this price point, you do have to hunt them down.
I'd recommend getting yourself a damp meter (read up on damp in caravans if you are unaware) - we very nearly put a deposit down on 2006 Bailey Ranger (being sold privately) that was in very good condition superficially, and discovered it was pretty rotten around the roof near the front just before handing over the cash.
At the risk of writing an entire novel here and for what it's worth, we wound up doubling the budget as we'd found a 2012 van with a layout that fitted our needs perfectly and was immaculate. To us, it felt like better value for money, and considering how slowly they depreciate, if we found out that we didn't use it and sold it after a couple of years, we wouldn't lose much more than £2k. Additionally, having a van we happy in means we are more likely to get our money's worth in using it. Basically, I'd suggest getting the best you can afford (but don't forget to keep some aside for all the kit, awning, etc).
In regards to a league table of brands, everyone will have their own opinion on this, and several manufacturers have multiple brands (and ranges within those brands) which muddies the water, but below is how I'd rank them:
Rolls Royce / Bentley:
Airstream
Vanmaster
Merc / BMW / Audi
Coachman
Buccaneer
VW
Swift / Sterling
Lunar
Elddis
Ford
Bailey
Dacia
Xplore
Sprite
The two common manufacturers are Swift and Bailey. Bailey have a conventional range. Swift market themselves differently with brands including Swift, Sterling and Spite among them.I'd recommend getting yourself a damp meter (read up on damp in caravans if you are unaware) - we very nearly put a deposit down on 2006 Bailey Ranger (being sold privately) that was in very good condition superficially, and discovered it was pretty rotten around the roof near the front just before handing over the cash.
At the risk of writing an entire novel here and for what it's worth, we wound up doubling the budget as we'd found a 2012 van with a layout that fitted our needs perfectly and was immaculate. To us, it felt like better value for money, and considering how slowly they depreciate, if we found out that we didn't use it and sold it after a couple of years, we wouldn't lose much more than £2k. Additionally, having a van we happy in means we are more likely to get our money's worth in using it. Basically, I'd suggest getting the best you can afford (but don't forget to keep some aside for all the kit, awning, etc).
In regards to a league table of brands, everyone will have their own opinion on this, and several manufacturers have multiple brands (and ranges within those brands) which muddies the water, but below is how I'd rank them:
Rolls Royce / Bentley:
Airstream
Vanmaster
Merc / BMW / Audi
Coachman
Buccaneer
VW
Swift / Sterling
Lunar
Elddis
Ford
Bailey
Dacia
Xplore
Sprite
Edited by JeffreyLebowski on Monday 14th March 13:19
Personally if you are a new entrant I would think you may be loads better off finding a private sale. Ours came with everything down to knives and forks. Buy a contactless damp meter (ie without the prongs).
I also think you get a better judge when your buying from the previous owner.
Damp readings - I'm being told not to worry about some readings higher than others with our caravan, mostly up to about 22% - apparently couple of screws need tightening. Don't forget wood is a living material and will always have a certain amount - especially at a colder type of year.
Concentrate on layout. There is a website out there which gives layouts and tells you which manufacturers produced them. If your not sure head to a big dealer and have a good browse.
Weight - It's all about the weight. Understand your cars weight and your driving license.
DIY - caravans are like boats. There are always little jobs. I would be put off by a cracked shower tray, but not say by a leaking tap. Taps are a pain, always be careful to drain all the water out at winter.
I've just had the first weekend away in my new Caravan. A 2006 Adria Altea. Its 5 berth, fixed bunks for the kids at the back, and a 6'11" long bed at the front. And only 1200kg. Perfect!
Adria's do seem to be a bit more basic than some, no oven and lino floors, for example. but the build quality is fantastic, its bone dry - can't find a damp reading above 10% - and the layout is really good. They are also less chintzy than British Vans. Saw lots with offensive pelmets and awful velour type fabrics.
I got it at an independent dealer, and drove about 60 miles for it. I paid a fuller price than I would have privately, but it was the right van and came with proof of service and proof that everything works. We saw some complete crap at some dealers - spongy floors, dripping with damp, smashed interior fittings. The one I bought isn't perfect - its had nearly 10 years of use - but its as close as I've found at the age and the price.
Adria's do seem to be a bit more basic than some, no oven and lino floors, for example. but the build quality is fantastic, its bone dry - can't find a damp reading above 10% - and the layout is really good. They are also less chintzy than British Vans. Saw lots with offensive pelmets and awful velour type fabrics.
I got it at an independent dealer, and drove about 60 miles for it. I paid a fuller price than I would have privately, but it was the right van and came with proof of service and proof that everything works. We saw some complete crap at some dealers - spongy floors, dripping with damp, smashed interior fittings. The one I bought isn't perfect - its had nearly 10 years of use - but its as close as I've found at the age and the price.
We bought our first van last year.
Like you, I didn`t have a clue what to look for and it`s quite bewildering.
On the advice of a caravanner we spoke to whilst camping, I bought a book from the bay of e called The Caravanning handbook by John Wickersham which explains pretty much everything you need to know right down to how to operate the toilet, working out weights for towing etc.
The dealers we spoke to were, generally, poor. One even tried to sell us a van that was too heavy for our car to pull.....
As others have said, some of the vans dealers described as being perfect were anything but.
We eventually bought private after looking at lots of vans. The guy we bought ours off was selling up to buy a motorhome. The van was immaculate, he had every receipt for the van, servicing, new tyres etc in a folder and the moment we stepped in it we knew it had been looked after.
We`ve had some great trips out in it, the kids love it and within an hour of finishing work on a Friday we can be set up overlooking the coast with a beer and relaxing.
Like you, I didn`t have a clue what to look for and it`s quite bewildering.
On the advice of a caravanner we spoke to whilst camping, I bought a book from the bay of e called The Caravanning handbook by John Wickersham which explains pretty much everything you need to know right down to how to operate the toilet, working out weights for towing etc.
The dealers we spoke to were, generally, poor. One even tried to sell us a van that was too heavy for our car to pull.....
As others have said, some of the vans dealers described as being perfect were anything but.
We eventually bought private after looking at lots of vans. The guy we bought ours off was selling up to buy a motorhome. The van was immaculate, he had every receipt for the van, servicing, new tyres etc in a folder and the moment we stepped in it we knew it had been looked after.
We`ve had some great trips out in it, the kids love it and within an hour of finishing work on a Friday we can be set up overlooking the coast with a beer and relaxing.
We are just entering our second full year of caravanning having moved up from a tent. We didn't really know what we were looking for either but had looked in a couple of dealers previously who supplied vans at the cheaper end of the spectrum and within your budget. Having kept an eye on the internet we went to look at a really cheap van at one of the dealers to get us started and see if we took to it. The kids were about 1 and 4 at the time. However really cheap was also really unpleasant and we decided we would rather stick with the tent!! Before we left though we looked at a few of the more expensive vans (still within the OP's budget by a good bit) and found a very tidy Abbey Expression around 2002 vintage. It was light and airy with a Heiki roof light and an L shaped seating area. We broke all the rules in terms of checking it over but it felt dry, looked clean if well used and didn't have any nasty smells. The kids loved it so much they wouldn't get out of it and as there was another family waiting outside who also wanted it we paid the deposit on the spot. We try and get away 3 times a year for 4 weeks in total with any odd weekends a bonus. Its far from perfect and I have had to do a little maintenance here and there including replacing the fridge (and currently in the process of repairing a steady which broke at the end of last year) but we have had some really good times. The kids still love it and the cooking with a full oven is much easier than with a tent, not to mention it is warmer and drier. What we have learnt though and as others have said layout really is key. We love the L shape seating - it just works really well for the 4 of us and whilst making up and taking down the beds can be a faff if I were to ever upgrade to a 6 berth with some fixed bunks I would still be on the hunt for the L shaped seating. Again as others have said, look at a few and get a feel - you will soon get to recognize the good from the less good. And whilst you can often smell damp do a get a moisture metre - I certainly would if I was hunting again.
Really think about the layout. Having had 3 years of caravanning, I do kind of regret going for our layout.
We have a 2008 Ace 6 berth twin axle, with fixed bunks, side dinette that turns into 2 more bunks and then the main seating area turns into a huge bed.
However, when we go away for long periods (for exmple, 16 nights in France), you soon get fed up with making the bed every night!
When we get a different 'van in a year or two, I'd go for a double seating arrangement with bunks. That way we could leave the rear bedroom made up as our bed, the kids can have the bunks and you don't faff around with the main seating area every night.
You'll love it though, we have some fantastic holidays in ours!
We have a 2008 Ace 6 berth twin axle, with fixed bunks, side dinette that turns into 2 more bunks and then the main seating area turns into a huge bed.
However, when we go away for long periods (for exmple, 16 nights in France), you soon get fed up with making the bed every night!
When we get a different 'van in a year or two, I'd go for a double seating arrangement with bunks. That way we could leave the rear bedroom made up as our bed, the kids can have the bunks and you don't faff around with the main seating area every night.
You'll love it though, we have some fantastic holidays in ours!
Rosscow said:
Really think about the layout. Having had 3 years of caravanning, I do kind of regret going for our layout.
We have a 2008 Ace 6 berth twin axle, with fixed bunks, side dinette that turns into 2 more bunks and then the main seating area turns into a huge bed.
However, when we go away for long periods (for exmple, 16 nights in France), you soon get fed up with making the bed every night!
When we get a different 'van in a year or two, I'd go for a double seating arrangement with bunks. That way we could leave the rear bedroom made up as our bed, the kids can have the bunks and you don't faff around with the main seating area every night.
You'll love it though, we have some fantastic holidays in ours!
We have a memory foam topper now. Rolls up and stores in the wardrobe. Time for bed just drops down. Made making the bed up something less of a chore as fighting with a sheet every night did my head in.We have a 2008 Ace 6 berth twin axle, with fixed bunks, side dinette that turns into 2 more bunks and then the main seating area turns into a huge bed.
However, when we go away for long periods (for exmple, 16 nights in France), you soon get fed up with making the bed every night!
When we get a different 'van in a year or two, I'd go for a double seating arrangement with bunks. That way we could leave the rear bedroom made up as our bed, the kids can have the bunks and you don't faff around with the main seating area every night.
You'll love it though, we have some fantastic holidays in ours!
There isn't much sign of the OP at the moment, but as I have piggy backed onto this thread thanks for the info so far.
We have been looking on and off at caravans for 5 or 6 years. Our budget was originally £3000-£4000, and the vans were nasty which put us off, and we ended up spending that money on a trip to Lapland to see Santa.
Our £6k budget is a notional figure, (I don't think it will be enough to get a nice van from a dealer).
To cut a long story short my wife wanted to go on holiday to Canada. The thought occurred to her to spend that money on a caravan instead - missing the point that we don't actually have that money for Canada or a caravan.
We probably spend about £1500 - £1800 a year on cottages, lodges and camping, so I can see her logic in getting a caravan. BUT She is ignoring pitch fees, storage, servicing and insurance so it will probably end up costing the same per annum to maintain the caravan that we spend on holidays at the minute.
The caravans I have looked at which appeal most in terms of layout are 5 berths from the German brands Adria and Geist, where there are permanent bunks with a diner/bed at one end. Some of the 6 berth Baileys look to have this layout as an option too. Are the German vans any better built than the UK stuff?
We have been looking on and off at caravans for 5 or 6 years. Our budget was originally £3000-£4000, and the vans were nasty which put us off, and we ended up spending that money on a trip to Lapland to see Santa.
Our £6k budget is a notional figure, (I don't think it will be enough to get a nice van from a dealer).
To cut a long story short my wife wanted to go on holiday to Canada. The thought occurred to her to spend that money on a caravan instead - missing the point that we don't actually have that money for Canada or a caravan.
We probably spend about £1500 - £1800 a year on cottages, lodges and camping, so I can see her logic in getting a caravan. BUT She is ignoring pitch fees, storage, servicing and insurance so it will probably end up costing the same per annum to maintain the caravan that we spend on holidays at the minute.
The caravans I have looked at which appeal most in terms of layout are 5 berths from the German brands Adria and Geist, where there are permanent bunks with a diner/bed at one end. Some of the 6 berth Baileys look to have this layout as an option too. Are the German vans any better built than the UK stuff?
PH5121 said:
There isn't much sign of the OP at the moment, but as I have piggy backed onto this thread thanks for the info so far.
We have been looking on and off at caravans for 5 or 6 years. Our budget was originally £3000-£4000, and the vans were nasty which put us off, and we ended up spending that money on a trip to Lapland to see Santa.
Our £6k budget is a notional figure, (I don't think it will be enough to get a nice van from a dealer).
To cut a long story short my wife wanted to go on holiday to Canada. The thought occurred to her to spend that money on a caravan instead - missing the point that we don't actually have that money for Canada or a caravan.
We probably spend about £1500 - £1800 a year on cottages, lodges and camping, so I can see her logic in getting a caravan. BUT She is ignoring pitch fees, storage, servicing and insurance so it will probably end up costing the same per annum to maintain the caravan that we spend on holidays at the minute.
The caravans I have looked at which appeal most in terms of layout are 5 berths from the German brands Adria and Geist, where there are permanent bunks with a diner/bed at one end. Some of the 6 berth Baileys look to have this layout as an option too. Are the German vans any better built than the UK stuff?
Generally the Germans are perceived to have better build quality. Can be some quirks in the build - especially the older ones, and they cost more.We have been looking on and off at caravans for 5 or 6 years. Our budget was originally £3000-£4000, and the vans were nasty which put us off, and we ended up spending that money on a trip to Lapland to see Santa.
Our £6k budget is a notional figure, (I don't think it will be enough to get a nice van from a dealer).
To cut a long story short my wife wanted to go on holiday to Canada. The thought occurred to her to spend that money on a caravan instead - missing the point that we don't actually have that money for Canada or a caravan.
We probably spend about £1500 - £1800 a year on cottages, lodges and camping, so I can see her logic in getting a caravan. BUT She is ignoring pitch fees, storage, servicing and insurance so it will probably end up costing the same per annum to maintain the caravan that we spend on holidays at the minute.
The caravans I have looked at which appeal most in terms of layout are 5 berths from the German brands Adria and Geist, where there are permanent bunks with a diner/bed at one end. Some of the 6 berth Baileys look to have this layout as an option too. Are the German vans any better built than the UK stuff?
surveyor said:
We have a memory foam topper now. Rolls up and stores in the wardrobe. Time for bed just drops down. Made making the bed up something less of a chore as fighting with a sheet every night did my head in.
Funnily enough - I've just invested in a couple of extra wide Duvalay roll ups! Well and truly fed up with a crumpled sheet fight every night 
Rosscow said:
Adria are not German - believe they're actually Slovenian.
They are. Also have a reputation for well built but heavy vans. I have got an Adria motorhome and would probably put it in the Audi box in the list above.Bailey nearly went bankrupt supporting their 10 year damp warranty!
It is worth remembering that the continental vans may have the door on the opposite side to UK vans. This causes a minor problem at sites with hardstandings or gravel for awnings. Some sites apparently get very excited about you rigging the wrong way round although we never found it an issue, just pushed the van in forwards by hand. My theory was its added security as well as not easy to hook up the caravan and drive it away when its nose in!
Our first caravan was a Dethlef 5 berth, which we found on a site in Hampshire when in a tent. It was marked for sale, ask at reception. After a week of my wife bleating "I want a caravan" I suggested she went to find out how much it was, on the principle it would be too much. She reappeared grinning from ear to ear sayung £500 or near offer. £400 later I was towing a caravan home! We had it serviced, bought new tyres, 2 gas bottles etc for another £400.
It didnt have an oven, though did have gas hob, fridge and heating and awning (which we replaced after a couple of years with one found on Ebay for £100). There was a tiny bathroom but no water heater. It served us well for 5 or 6 years and we should it on Ebay last year and sold it for £625!
The caravan cost us less than the tent!
Last year we bought a 6 berth 2007 Sterling single axle, I think it was around £7,900 but cant remember. There is a post about it on here somewhere.
There are only 3 of us plus dog and we are in the "cant be arsed to put up a bed" camp, also daughter is 11 and still goes to bed around 9. Therefore my wife and daughter sleep in the bunks, I have one of the singles that would make a double in the lounge, the dog has the other. The other single remains as a 2 seats and table and the pull up bunk above it has never been used.
The plan in a couple of years when daughter is older will be to get a caravan with fixed beds and daughter can sleep in an awning extension!
Our first caravan was a Dethlef 5 berth, which we found on a site in Hampshire when in a tent. It was marked for sale, ask at reception. After a week of my wife bleating "I want a caravan" I suggested she went to find out how much it was, on the principle it would be too much. She reappeared grinning from ear to ear sayung £500 or near offer. £400 later I was towing a caravan home! We had it serviced, bought new tyres, 2 gas bottles etc for another £400.
It didnt have an oven, though did have gas hob, fridge and heating and awning (which we replaced after a couple of years with one found on Ebay for £100). There was a tiny bathroom but no water heater. It served us well for 5 or 6 years and we should it on Ebay last year and sold it for £625!
The caravan cost us less than the tent!
Last year we bought a 6 berth 2007 Sterling single axle, I think it was around £7,900 but cant remember. There is a post about it on here somewhere.
There are only 3 of us plus dog and we are in the "cant be arsed to put up a bed" camp, also daughter is 11 and still goes to bed around 9. Therefore my wife and daughter sleep in the bunks, I have one of the singles that would make a double in the lounge, the dog has the other. The other single remains as a 2 seats and table and the pull up bunk above it has never been used.
The plan in a couple of years when daughter is older will be to get a caravan with fixed beds and daughter can sleep in an awning extension!
I have been reading up as much as possible and came across this van,
Knaus Deseo £11,500 brand new
http://www.barnsdaleleisure-knaus.co.uk/knaus-dese...
http://www.caravanclub.co.uk/news-and-events/award...
Knaus Deseo £11,500 brand new
http://www.barnsdaleleisure-knaus.co.uk/knaus-dese...
http://www.caravanclub.co.uk/news-and-events/award...
caterhamboy said:
I have been reading up as much as possible and came across this van,
Knaus Deseo £11,500 brand new
http://www.barnsdaleleisure-knaus.co.uk/knaus-dese...
http://www.caravanclub.co.uk/news-and-events/award...
More like £13k with a few extras and delivery!Knaus Deseo £11,500 brand new
http://www.barnsdaleleisure-knaus.co.uk/knaus-dese...
http://www.caravanclub.co.uk/news-and-events/award...
£13k buys you a LOT of second hand caravan...
I just bought subject to inspection a Bailey Senator Carolina 6 berth for a little over 10. Possibly not the highest end thing in the world but suits us being three kids (triple bunks) and two dogs. Actually bought this instead of a new car! I must be getting old.
It beats the hell out of camping.
It beats the hell out of camping.
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