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MonkeySpanker

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319 posts

144 months

Monday 19th October 2015
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A 2016 Sprite Quattro FB which should be arriving around June/July next year. I'm looking to upgrade my tow car to suit & would welcome any advice. I'd prefer something 4x4 with a diesel (I was thinking along the lines of something like a Shogun). The MRO of the van is 1353kg with a MTPL of 1578kg.
As I understand it there's no legal towing limit regarding caravan to vehicle weight ratio (more like guidelines) although towing a 6 berth with a MX5 might be overdoing it!!
Cheers.
Tim

Rosscow

9,013 posts

170 months

Monday 19th October 2015
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That's not a very heavy caravan - there's no need for such a large tow car.

I pull a twin axle Ace which has a MTPLM weight of 1730kg with my Audi A6 Quattro (which is 4x4). You could pull your Sprite with something similar or smaller - an A4 Avant or BMW X series tourer.

Be careful with the large 4x4's like Shogun, Discovery, Landcruiser, etc. - you will get horrendous MPG (and I mean less than 20mpg when towing).

As for legislation, there is no rule with regards weight ratio (85% is the one that towing bodies etc. recommend). Obviously your tow car has a maximum towing weight (for example, my car has a maximum towing weight of 1900kg).

I presume you have either a pre 1997 driving license or you've taken your B+E test if you passed your test post 1997?

smashie

685 posts

158 months

Monday 19th October 2015
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I currently tow my van with Kia Sorento. It is not a bad tow car.
I can recommend going for a car that has good tow ball weight capacity. My Kia is 100Kg. I previously towed with an E320 estate and the nose weight was 70/75kg (cant remember which). It is far easier loading the Kia with the higher limit as I don't have to worry as much about what I put up front in the van and what goes directly over axle etc. I can now put the wheel clamp in the front locker whereas before it would take me over so went in the car.

surveyor

18,143 posts

191 months

Monday 19th October 2015
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Rosscow said:
That's not a very heavy caravan - there's no need for such a large tow car.

I pull a twin axle Ace which has a MTPLM weight of 1730kg with my Audi A6 Quattro (which is 4x4). You could pull your Sprite with something similar or smaller - an A4 Avant or BMW X series tourer.

Be careful with the large 4x4's like Shogun, Discovery, Landcruiser, etc. - you will get horrendous MPG (and I mean less than 20mpg when towing).

As for legislation, there is no rule with regards weight ratio (85% is the one that towing bodies etc. recommend). Obviously your tow car has a maximum towing weight (for example, my car has a maximum towing weight of 1900kg).

I presume you have either a pre 1997 driving license or you've taken your B+E test if you passed your test post 1997?
We have a much older Sprite Quattro which has a similar MTPLM.

Currently tow with a Range Rover which is a dream. We do get over 20mpg when towing (but not by much!), and it does not improve so much when not towing...

I've also towed with a E320 Estate. This was well within weight, but was never as stable - vehicles going past would tug it about unpleasantly.

Assuming you have B+E you have loads of options.

Rosscow

9,013 posts

170 months

Tuesday 20th October 2015
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smashie said:
I currently tow my van with Kia Sorento. It is not a bad tow car.
I can recommend going for a car that has good tow ball weight capacity. My Kia is 100Kg. I previously towed with an E320 estate and the nose weight was 70/75kg (cant remember which). It is far easier loading the Kia with the higher limit as I don't have to worry as much about what I put up front in the van and what goes directly over axle etc. I can now put the wheel clamp in the front locker whereas before it would take me over so went in the car.
I've never found it a problem, but I think that is because we have a twin axle.

One thing that I would seriously recommend if buying a car for towing is to get one with self levelling rear suspension. Makes such a difference!

LouD86

3,285 posts

160 months

Tuesday 20th October 2015
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Rosscow said:
Be careful with the large 4x4's like Shogun, Discovery, Landcruiser, etc. - you will get horrendous MPG (and I mean less than 20mpg when towing).
Not far wrong there. I tow a similar weight van to Rosscow, with a Disco V8 (11mpg towing) and a Shogun 3.2DiD (24mpg towing), so they are juicy. Only bonus is they have plenty of weight and grunt behind them. I like the trucks as I'm often in boggy fields, but if you have the vehicle to be a daily, something like the Audi is a corker of a car

Andy Zarse

10,868 posts

254 months

Tuesday 20th October 2015
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Just towed our 5 berth Bailey with a MTPLM of 1441kg with a 4x4 Skoda Yeti 150bhp. It's vastly better than the Subaru Legacy diesel we were using previously. It returned 32mpg. There's no need for a massive tank, and such things are beastly for a keen driver.

MonkeySpanker

Original Poster:

319 posts

144 months

Thursday 22nd October 2015
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Cheers for the replies. Yes I'm an old (49) git with B+E approval so don't need to do any extra tests. I've towed before & currently own a very old Omega Compass which my 2.0 Accord tows very merrily & thirstily.

GreatGranny

9,352 posts

233 months

Wednesday 4th November 2015
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XC60?

Friends tows with his although lighter van than your new one, and its excellent.

He has the auto which makes it a doddle.

We used to tow a similar sized van with our XC90 and that was great but very thirsty but we needed a 7 seater.