Exhaust from gas fridge entering living area

Exhaust from gas fridge entering living area

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clockworks

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6,138 posts

152 months

Friday 6th September 2013
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Recently got a 1995 coachbuilt Elddis motorhome, fitted with an Electrolux 3-way fridge (RM4236).
Had our first trip away last week. No hookup for the first night, so the fridge was running on gas.

After half an hour or so, the missus said she could smell "gas" inside the 'van. A little while later, I could smell it too. Then, the CO alarm went off. We turned off the fridge.

Investigating at home, I borrowed a gas leak detector, and it doesn't go off inside the 'van. A digital CO detector shows a peak of 136ppm after an hour, pretty much the same reading as if I hold the detector outside against the fridge flue.

The exhaust gas is building up in the cupboard next to the fridge (where an oven would be fitted if we had one), then into the grill housing, and up through the hob. There is a 1" gap at the top of the partition between the fridge housing and the oven/grill/hob housing.

I have removed the vents and flue, and blown through with compressed air. The flame on the burner is blue, no sign of a yellow flame.
The fridge works fine on gas, apart from the smell and CO inside the living area.

2 questions:

What's the normal CO level in the flue gas from a fridge?
Is it normal for the back of the fridge to vent into the living space through gaps in the cabinets?

I'm wondering if the fridge is faulty, the installation is poor, or both.

MarshPhantom

9,658 posts

144 months

Friday 6th September 2013
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I don't know about fridges, but that CO reading on a gas fired boiler would mean it would be shut down. Legal limit for CO is 100ppm.

Was your van level when you had these problems? Don't use the fridge until you have this sorted.

clockworks

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6,138 posts

152 months

Friday 6th September 2013
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Think I've sorted it now. Previous owner didn't give us much info!
There were covers fitted to the fridge vents, which are understand should only be installed in extremely cold weather.
I removed those, and all is now OK. No smell inside, and zero CO. Even the exhaust gas coming from the flue outside has almost no smell now.

I think there was not enough oxygen entering via the rear lower vent, so combustion was incomplete.

GAjon

3,804 posts

220 months

Friday 6th September 2013
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I think the covers on mine are for temps 5c or below.
Even so, you shouldn't get a gas or CO2 build up/ intrusion when using them.

nagsheadwarrior

2,789 posts

186 months

Friday 6th September 2013
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Bit o.t here but its quite rare to find a 1990s British coachbuilt without an oven,what model is it,an Eclipse?

clockworks

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6,138 posts

152 months

Friday 6th September 2013
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It's an Autoquest Elite 420

nagsheadwarrior

2,789 posts

186 months

Friday 6th September 2013
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Aah,nice spacious van that.
I knew they didnt have an oven as standard but lots did,rather have the storage of the cupboard myself.

Stuartggray

7,703 posts

235 months

Saturday 7th September 2013
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clockworks said:
Think I've sorted it now. Previous owner didn't give us much info!
There were covers fitted to the fridge vents, which are understand should only be installed in extremely cold weather.
I removed those, and all is now OK. No smell inside, and zero CO. Even the exhaust gas coming from the flue outside has almost no smell now.

I think there was not enough oxygen entering via the rear lower vent, so combustion was incomplete.
Apart from the vent covers, check that any floor vents inside the furniture structure around the fridge/oven area have not been covered over. Have a look under the 'van in the general area and see if floor vents exist that may be covered on the topside.

clockworks

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6,138 posts

152 months

Sunday 8th September 2013
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There are floor vents in each cabinet (behind fridge, and below hob/grill where the gas taps are situated. Also vents in the gas locker and under the seat where the water heater lives. All are clear.