Camping cooker: gas v. petrol

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V8mate

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45,899 posts

196 months

Monday 18th February 2013
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Anyone care to describe the pros and cons of the two fuel types from their experiences 'out in the field'?

anonymous-user

61 months

Monday 18th February 2013
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Gas....clean, relatively safe, no fking about priming, burns very hot, easy to manage if it leaks, but usually comes in pressurised one-use containers.
Petrol....easy to come by, easy to refuel, can be put in reusable containers (aka jerry cans) but makes a bloody mess and damages other stuff if it leaks, usually has some wacky light-up procedure.

Gas every time for me.

the_lone_wolf

2,622 posts

193 months

Sunday 3rd March 2013
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I've used CampinGaz type stoves for years, very easy to use. However, I went camping in the winter one time and the temperatures meant that gas stoves wouldn't work, so I went looking for a petrol stove. Ended up buying a Coleman Feather 442 for just under £40 on discount in my local high street camping shop

Once we got to the site the gas stove another rider brought was entirely useless, the only way to get it to light at all was to hold the cannister off the snow and rock it side to side. Even then it was weak to pointless, whereas the Coleman just got on with it...

Now, even in the UK where we'll never experience the kind of temperatures we had in Germany (minus five during the day, down to minus twenty at night) I take the Coleman every time I go away... Why? Primarily it's the power, the heat output of a petrol stove is massively more than any gas stove I've ever seen - you won't believe it until you try it but to give you an idea, it'll boil a pan of water before the bubbles start to form on the base of the pan using a gas stove. More importantly for me, when I'm travelling on the bike, I always have unleaded with me in the fuel tank, so I don't have to worry about carrying spare cannisters...

Now, lots of people will tell you that petrol stoves will kill your family but I've done many trips with mine and its never done anything to make me think it was less safe than a propane stove, follow the instructions on the side and you'll be just fine - Yes, as with anything flammable there's a chance of something catching fire, and petrol vapour is explosive, but on the other hand gas cannisters are pressurised, not something synonymous with safety...

It's not hard to light a petrol stove, yes it's not quite as simple as turn knob and light but it takes a few seconds at most, and once lit whatever you're heating will be done in about half the time. A full tank of petrol in mine will last a week of heating breakfast and hot drinks in the mornings and army rations and teas in the evening.

tl;dr: Long story short, Just my opinion but the few very minor negatives are outweighed by the major positives for using the petrol stove...

Bill

54,248 posts

262 months

Monday 4th March 2013
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Petrol is messier, and if you don't have a petrol vehicle a PITA because of minimum amounts dispensed by pumps but you can get it everywhere you go.

hadenough!

3,785 posts

267 months

Wednesday 6th March 2013
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Petrol is the better toy, it's like a little jet engine.

Ayahuasca

27,428 posts

286 months

Thursday 7th March 2013
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hadenough! said:
Petrol is the better toy, it's like a little jet engine.
Agreed.



Odie

4,187 posts

189 months

Thursday 7th March 2013
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if your going to go for petrol you might as well go for multi-fuel

Ayahuasca

27,428 posts

286 months

Thursday 7th March 2013
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I use a multi-fuel MSR Whisperlite. Superb bit of kit.

Odie

4,187 posts

189 months

Friday 8th March 2013
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Ayahuasca said:
I use a multi-fuel MSR Whisperlite. Superb bit of kit.
Ive been considering getting a whisperlite, what fuels have you tried and which do you prefer?

Bill

54,248 posts

262 months

Friday 8th March 2013
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Have they got any control these days? My (15-y-o admittedly) is either hotter than the sun on, or off because the control is at the valve on the bottle. IIRC they started doing one with a control at the jet that would be better, assuming it works.

Ayahuasca

27,428 posts

286 months

Friday 8th March 2013
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unleaded petrol and Coleman's lamp fluid (a white spirit). Both work fine, prefer the Colemans as doesn't smell.

You can adjust it with a little screw valve at the fuel bottle.

smegmore

3,091 posts

183 months

Saturday 9th March 2013
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Ayahuasca said:
I use a multi-fuel MSR Whisperlite. Superb bit of kit.
This for me, I'll never use camping gas cylinders again.

hadenough!

3,785 posts

267 months

Saturday 9th March 2013
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I use a firefly, really quality kit.

Johnnytheboy

24,498 posts

193 months

Saturday 9th March 2013
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I used to use gas way back, then took a petrol stove on a trip abroad with me and it was a temperamental so-and-so.

Now gone back to basics and use hexamine army disposables.

Piglet

6,250 posts

262 months

Saturday 9th March 2013
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Petrol for us, Coleman dual burner, single burner and lamp. No lugging gas bottles around, no not being sure how much gas is left so wasting the end of a bottle to make sure we've got enough.

Minimum quantities aren't really an issue you can fill up a 5 litre can, I suspect in a small garage they would let you have less if you explain...

Some maintenance of the kit is required but the parts are easily available and there are loads of online guides.

I'd echo what others have said about the power output of them it's just awesome compared to gas. The dual mantle lamp is so bright at full power it's almost impossible to look at it, we use it on the lowest settings and it adds some warmth as well as light.

Ayahuasca

27,428 posts

286 months

Saturday 9th March 2013
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Piglet said:
The dual mantle lamp is so bright at full power it's almost impossible to look at it, we use it on the lowest settings and it adds some warmth as well as light.
Got one of those too and you are right. Nice bits of kit except when the mantle breaks and you don't have a spare. Used it without one of the mantles and it kept spluttering and popping and everyone kept a wary eye on it waiting for it to go 'boom'.

Also got a traditional 'oil lamp' which although is less bright is much less complicated.


Piglet

6,250 posts

262 months

Saturday 9th March 2013
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Ayahuasca said:
Got one of those too and you are right. Nice bits of kit except when the mantle breaks and you don't have a spare. Used it without one of the mantles and it kept spluttering and popping and everyone kept a wary eye on it waiting for it to go 'boom'.
I'd forgotten that, we are now quite careful with ours, it travels in the car in it's box rather than in the camping trailer as it's prone to blowing mantles. The original lasted forever, but the replacements don't seem to last as long.

Fort Jefferson

8,237 posts

229 months

Saturday 9th March 2013
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I bought one of these for a tenner when they were on offer. Stable, small and very hot and adjustable.

Wedg1e

26,891 posts

272 months

Tuesday 19th March 2013
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Piglet said:
Petrol for us, Coleman dual burner, single burner and lamp.
yes I have the Coleman 2-burner stove and the Northstar petrol lantern... a light so bright we've had people in other tents asking us to turn it down as they couldn't sleep... it WAS turned down!

Neither gets enough use that unleaded has yet killed them and the Northstar travels in its padded Coleman case and is still on its first mantle!

I think the stove has spent more time melting scrap lead than cooking food whistle - speaking of which, you can buy a sit-on hotplate for the 2-burner that lets you do great fry-ups biggrin

RizzoTheRat

26,000 posts

199 months

Sunday 24th March 2013
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I love my Whisperlite, but on it's lowest setting it's still a lot hotter than my old camping gas one. Fantastic for boiling stuff quickly, but you do need to keep an eye on it when frying. As others have said petrol's way better when it's cold, I've had my camping gas one nearly go up in a fireball when it was producing liquid not gas biggrin Main reason I use a petrol is I don't need to worry about carrying spare fuel, I'm usually on the bike when camping so space is a premium, and I keep a short length of pipe under the seat to siphon fuel out of the bike tank.