Music in a field
Discussion
Before I start - I'm not aiming to be an antisocial camper. I love the quiet, and around others I am very quiet.
But sometimes we are alone - no-one else in sight (or earshot), and we like a bit of music. Up until now, people in our group brought along their tinny little iPod docks. I thought they were a little insufficient, so I built my own iPod dock specifically to fit in a Daxara 127.
It's based around a pair of JBL 6x9s, a JBL 12" sub, and a Kenwood amp in "tri" mode. There's a hefty crossover inside to filter the bass (100Hz crossover) to the big driver, and everything else to the 6x9s.
But sometimes we are alone - no-one else in sight (or earshot), and we like a bit of music. Up until now, people in our group brought along their tinny little iPod docks. I thought they were a little insufficient, so I built my own iPod dock specifically to fit in a Daxara 127.
It's based around a pair of JBL 6x9s, a JBL 12" sub, and a Kenwood amp in "tri" mode. There's a hefty crossover inside to filter the bass (100Hz crossover) to the big driver, and everything else to the 6x9s.
Edited by Watchman on Friday 20th July 22:26
I fully appreciate your respect for others, and I did read your post too...but, if I saw that being unveiled at the camp site I was on, I would be fearing the worst and would expect the techno to be played as I (try to) sleep.
As said I have read your post and understand that you are respectful, but I think you might find curtains twitch and neighbours with worried faces when they see that!
As said I have read your post and understand that you are respectful, but I think you might find curtains twitch and neighbours with worried faces when they see that!
Just back from camping near St Davids with *that* and it has been a massive success. The camp site was in the middle of nowhere (awesome view of the horizon for over 100 degrees) and our party of eleven tents was met with about the same number of "others" at a peak but mostly it was limited to around 5 other tents.
We kept the music down mostly, and killed it early to respect the children on site but there were occasions when the neighbours joined us and we were able to let fly a bit.
No techno. A little R&B. A little Rock 'n Roll. Mostly stuff like Groove Armada, Kruder & Dorf, etc - other chill music. Perfect accompaniment to a raging camp fire, a ship-load of alcohol, and a simply massive sky (it was clear most of the time - stars are quite humbling to us city folk).
It did take up rather more room than I had intended but I managed.
We kept the music down mostly, and killed it early to respect the children on site but there were occasions when the neighbours joined us and we were able to let fly a bit.
No techno. A little R&B. A little Rock 'n Roll. Mostly stuff like Groove Armada, Kruder & Dorf, etc - other chill music. Perfect accompaniment to a raging camp fire, a ship-load of alcohol, and a simply massive sky (it was clear most of the time - stars are quite humbling to us city folk).
It did take up rather more room than I had intended but I managed.
Genelec said:
I rather like that! Bet you'd get chucked out of some campsites in seconds if you unveiled it though!
Any reason why the amp isn't mounted inside the enclosure? Would be neater, cooling I guess?
Just don't get carried away that's all.....
Hah - I like that ^^^Any reason why the amp isn't mounted inside the enclosure? Would be neater, cooling I guess?
Just don't get carried away that's all.....
It's only a bit of fun. We camp a bit out of the way and we really are respectful of the other campers. Sometimes we're alone on site but we had such a positive reaction from other campers in St Davids that we might just call them over for a drink and see how things go. We did manage to really wind it up for an hour once but we all have young kids so their bedtime limits our exuberance ultimately.
Amp's outside for cooling - yes. It does get a bit warm. The current amp is being used in Tri-Mode which means it's in stereo for the two 6x9s but can send a mono sub-woofer signal through two of the 2-pairs of stereo speaker terminals. You have to build your own crossover network to ensure the big central sub only gets the bass signals though. I have a massive (heavy - half a Kg) inductor limiting signals to the sub to under 100Hz (you can see it in the pic with sub cone missing above), and a series (parallel actually) of capacitors limiting their signal to OVER 100Hz. Obviously there's a crossover between them. 100Hz is just the point where their respective signals start to attenuate.
Got a great idea for the 3x 12"ers. I'm thinking triangular enclosure with a pair of tweeters on stalks coming out of the sides in a Y shape. I need a MASSIVE mono amp for the 3x 12"ers though, and little low-ish-powered stereo amp for the tweeters.
Let's see what I can win on the bay of E.
Watchman said:
Hah - I like that ^^^
Got a great idea for the 3x 12"ers. I'm thinking triangular enclosure with a pair of tweeters on stalks coming out of the sides in a Y shape. I need a MASSIVE mono amp for the 3x 12"ers though, and little low-ish-powered stereo amp for the tweeters.
Let's see what I can win on the bay of E.
May I suggest one of these:Got a great idea for the 3x 12"ers. I'm thinking triangular enclosure with a pair of tweeters on stalks coming out of the sides in a Y shape. I need a MASSIVE mono amp for the 3x 12"ers though, and little low-ish-powered stereo amp for the tweeters.
Let's see what I can win on the bay of E.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Lepai-TRIPATH-TA2020-Cla...
Cheap, frugal on power and surprisingly hi-fi!!
Love the idea though, I borrowed a 3x5 trailer at the weekend for more mundane purposes, and did have a think about how else it could be filled!! Most of my camping is with climbing though, so space is at a premium, and to that end i'm hoping for one of these www.minirigs.co.uk for my birthday!!
I've seen those but I strongly disblieve their power output claims. To output 200W RMS would require it to input in excess of that. That little mains adapter isn't capable of 20W let alone 200W.
I'm kicking myself for being 1 minute late for an Ebay auction of a 1000W car amplifier which went for only £21.
I'm kicking myself for being 1 minute late for an Ebay auction of a 1000W car amplifier which went for only £21.
Watchman said:
I've seen those but I strongly disblieve their power output claims. To output 200W RMS would require it to input in excess of that. That little mains adapter isn't capable of 20W let alone 200W.
I'm kicking myself for being 1 minute late for an Ebay auction of a 1000W car amplifier which went for only £21.
But it is a 20w amp, not 200w I'm kicking myself for being 1 minute late for an Ebay auction of a 1000W car amplifier which went for only £21.
PSU looks like it can deliver 24w so should be good for it. No personal experience of them myself though. Looks good for some little projects though!
Genelec said:
Watchman said:
I've seen those but I strongly disblieve their power output claims. To output 200W RMS would require it to input in excess of that. That little mains adapter isn't capable of 20W let alone 200W.
I'm kicking myself for being 1 minute late for an Ebay auction of a 1000W car amplifier which went for only £21.
But it is a 20w amp, not 200w I'm kicking myself for being 1 minute late for an Ebay auction of a 1000W car amplifier which went for only £21.
PSU looks like it can deliver 24w so should be good for it. No personal experience of them myself though. Looks good for some little projects though!
I think I saw the model number on top and assumed...Anyway, I need a grunty b
d amp. Watchman said:
Oops I think I saw the model number on top and assumed...
Anyway, I need a grunty bd amp.
For tweeters? They do a decent 20W into 4ohms, and that would be plenty for hi-mid and up! It even did a reasonable job driving a 12" sub in a sealed box in my bedroom. Made the walls rattle nicely! I think I saw the model number on top and assumed...Anyway, I need a grunty b
d amp. Ah I see where you are now. Sorry for the stupidity.
I think I've got the tweeter amplification sorted. The original amp is a Kenwood, donated to me FOC by a friend. I have another Kenwood sitting in another friend's house, awaiting my collection. It's only a 40W stereo one but it'll be perfect for driving the tweeters, whenever I get hold of them.
What I an focussed on is getting a decent mono amp for the 3x 12"ers. I want a proper sub mono amp, rather than a bridged stereo amp. The bridged stereo amps only amplify the LEFT channel input whereas the true mono amps combine the L&R inputs into a mono output.
I think I've got the tweeter amplification sorted. The original amp is a Kenwood, donated to me FOC by a friend. I have another Kenwood sitting in another friend's house, awaiting my collection. It's only a 40W stereo one but it'll be perfect for driving the tweeters, whenever I get hold of them.
What I an focussed on is getting a decent mono amp for the 3x 12"ers. I want a proper sub mono amp, rather than a bridged stereo amp. The bridged stereo amps only amplify the LEFT channel input whereas the true mono amps combine the L&R inputs into a mono output.
P.S. looking at your minirig reminds me of the speaker I have given to my son. You may know that Pringles (yes, crisps) are doing a promo where you send them 3 rip-offs from Pringles tubes and they send you a battery speaker to put into a Pringles tube.
It howled a bit until I put some of the damping fuzz into it from making the above speaker cabinet but now It's surprisingly useful. He's only 7yo so he attaches it to his Nintendo DS which I've filled up with "proper" music. Means I can hardly complain when I hear Genesis, Led Zep, Bowie or Queen coming from his room when he should be going to sleep.
It howled a bit until I put some of the damping fuzz into it from making the above speaker cabinet but now It's surprisingly useful. He's only 7yo so he attaches it to his Nintendo DS which I've filled up with "proper" music. Means I can hardly complain when I hear Genesis, Led Zep, Bowie or Queen coming from his room when he should be going to sleep.
Watchman said:
P.S. looking at your minirig reminds me of the speaker I have given to my son. You may know that Pringles (yes, crisps) are doing a promo where you send them 3 rip-offs from Pringles tubes and they send you a battery speaker to put into a Pringles tube.
It howled a bit until I put some of the damping fuzz into it from making the above speaker cabinet but now It's surprisingly useful. He's only 7yo so he attaches it to his Nintendo DS which I've filled up with "proper" music. Means I can hardly complain when I hear Genesis, Led Zep, Bowie or Queen coming from his room when he should be going to sleep.
Need a like button for this.... except the Genesis bit It howled a bit until I put some of the damping fuzz into it from making the above speaker cabinet but now It's surprisingly useful. He's only 7yo so he attaches it to his Nintendo DS which I've filled up with "proper" music. Means I can hardly complain when I hear Genesis, Led Zep, Bowie or Queen coming from his room when he should be going to sleep.
Getting really pissed off at Ebay lately. The 12" drivers are called a GTO1202D. I should have 4 but one of a pair from one seller is broken and he'll only refund if I send it back to him. I won it for a song (I'll concede) so the cost of postage back to him probably wouldn't cover the refund.
I'll let it slide because the value amounts to less than a tenner, but it irks me that he's very likely realised the auction went against him (with regards to the value) and put a knackered one into the box.
And another I ordered has turned up finally today (2 weeks after I paid for it) and it's not a GTO1202D at all - yes, it's a JBL driver and it might even be technically better, but I won an auction for a 1202D and want it to match the others I have. I have challenged that one because I do want the right speaker.
I'll let it slide because the value amounts to less than a tenner, but it irks me that he's very likely realised the auction went against him (with regards to the value) and put a knackered one into the box.
And another I ordered has turned up finally today (2 weeks after I paid for it) and it's not a GTO1202D at all - yes, it's a JBL driver and it might even be technically better, but I won an auction for a 1202D and want it to match the others I have. I have challenged that one because I do want the right speaker.
I started today on a triangular sub cabinet which is to house 3x 12" drivers.
I marked it all out and scribed some circles before fixing my jigsaw to the fixed-tether nailed to the middle of each hole but the blade started to bend outwards, causing me to cut a spiral which is too far outside of the tolerances I need for a 3' per side equilateral triangle.
bks.
I will get some more wood tomorrow. And maybe a different jigsaw. Bloody useless piece of junk.
I marked it all out and scribed some circles before fixing my jigsaw to the fixed-tether nailed to the middle of each hole but the blade started to bend outwards, causing me to cut a spiral which is too far outside of the tolerances I need for a 3' per side equilateral triangle.
b
ks.I will get some more wood tomorrow. And maybe a different jigsaw. Bloody useless piece of junk.
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