Maxus Deliver 9
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Hi I’ve run 3 since 2021 they have been a fair bit of trouble I’ve just got rid of 2 of them,the 3rd has just had a engine under warranty so will keep that and see how it pans out,they have/had all done 120k ish miles,we have had multiple driveshafts in all of them,gearbox problems,injector problems etc the radio/phones are pretty unusable, I think the new ones have improved that problem,most of the problems have been addressed under warranty but they spend to much time off the road for me to consider buying again,I put the 2 into auction and got £3.5k for one and £4K for the other
awg454 said:
Hi I ve run 3 since 2021 they have been a fair bit of trouble I ve just got rid of 2 of them,the 3rd has just had a engine under warranty so will keep that and see how it pans out,they have/had all done 120k ish miles,we have had multiple driveshafts in all of them,gearbox problems,injector problems etc the radio/phones are pretty unusable, I think the new ones have improved that problem,most of the problems have been addressed under warranty but they spend to much time off the road for me to consider buying again,I put the 2 into auction and got £3.5k for one and £4K for the other
Jesus that doesn't make for great reading!Do other vans in your fleet suffer similar issues?
Paddymcc said:
Jesus that doesn't make for great reading!
Do other vans in your fleet suffer similar issues?
They all have weaknesses but non as bad as the Maxus I run 3 Crafters as well they are far better if you buy second hand you can take out a 2 year warranty with VW which from memory is £1032 that includes 2 Services 2 MOTs and 2 years roadside recovery as well as the warranty Do other vans in your fleet suffer similar issues?
Complete junk and worth nothing come resale time as nobody wants them . I run a small fleet of Sprinters and have done since their introduction in 1998 . I don't know the financial position of your Business but in my estimation as a fellow Business Owner , you would do better picking up some second hand Sprinters with around 60,000 showing than you would if you bought the new Maxus . If looked after in the way of oil and filter changes these will easily reach 400,000 miles . there isn't a Maxus on the planet with that sort of longevity .
Edited by reddiesel on Monday 2nd February 04:51
reddiesel said:
Complete junk and worth nothing come resale time as nobody wants them . I run a small fleet of Sprinters and have done since their introduction in 1998 . I don't know the financial position of your Business but in my estimation as a fellow Business Owner , you would do better picking up some second hand Sprinters with around 60,000 showing than you would if you bought the new Maxus . If looked after in the way of oil and filter changes these will easily reach 400,000 miles . there isn't a Maxus on the planet with that sort of longevity .
Wise words, Sprinters (or Vito's) are the only sensible option for tough applications. Good resale, good service and parts availability, driver acceptance is high. I'd always buy new accepting the higher price but depreciate over a longer period making them cheaper to run than Ford's. As for Maxus, not until they're a more developed product.Edited by reddiesel on Monday 2nd February 04:51
reddiesel said:
Complete junk and worth nothing come resale time as nobody wants them . I run a small fleet of Sprinters and have done since their introduction in 1998 . I don't know the financial position of your Business but in my estimation as a fellow Business Owner , you would do better picking up some second hand Sprinters with around 60,000 showing than you would if you bought the new Maxus . If looked after in the way of oil and filter changes these will easily reach 400,000 miles . there isn't a Maxus on the planet with that sort of longevity .
In 1998 the Sprinter was a revelation. How new are the ones you have now.? Edited by reddiesel on Monday 2nd February 04:51
Post 71 plate. Unless you got old stock, the new 2.1 becomes trouble around 100k. Timing chain issues normally, but other issues too.
It's telling that the EE Sloggers, with their big tilts and boxes, sleeping pods on the roof, have now completely dumped the Sprinter in favour of Iveco and Renault mainly.
These trucks do miles that very few UK vans and trucks do.
My tyre guy runs half a dozen from 68 to 25, he is sticking with them on previous reputation and experience, but has already had to replace one engine in a later one. another he didn't ignore the timing chain rattle and got it done.
Had a few drive train issues recently too, prop shaft and diff failure.
To add some balance, Maxus update the vehicle’s each year often without informing its dealers or the public.
They do take on board feedback and slowly improve the product.
A newer Maxus 9 will be mechanically better under the skin than an older version despite being identical on paper.
They do take on board feedback and slowly improve the product.
A newer Maxus 9 will be mechanically better under the skin than an older version despite being identical on paper.
Doesitdrive said:
In 1998 the Sprinter was a revelation. How new are the ones you have now.?
Post 71 plate. Unless you got old stock, the new 2.1 becomes trouble around 100k. Timing chain issues normally, but other issues too.
It's telling that the EE Sloggers, with their big tilts and boxes, sleeping pods on the roof, have now completely dumped the Sprinter in favour of Iveco and Renault mainly.
These trucks do miles that very few UK vans and trucks do.
My tyre guy runs half a dozen from 68 to 25, he is sticking with them on previous reputation and experience, but has already had to replace one engine in a later one. another he didn't ignore the timing chain rattle and got it done.
Had a few drive train issues recently too, prop shaft and diff failure.
The latest Sprinters have been a mixed experience if I am being honest . Too much unnecessary tech which often doesn't work the screen going blank for no reason then correcting itself , again for no reason . The Stereo volume is also pretty poor . Compared to earlier versions these Sprinters just seem a pretty average built to a price product . Mine are all on 19 plates and engine wise I have had no issues apart from a solitary knock sensor . All are sitting around 135,000 miles , all are dropside and on the Building Sites lead a hard life . Filters and oil are changed every 5000 miles and thats been my experience . Accy Stan has in the past praised the Iveco . but I have a Bricklaying Contractor with an Iveco dropside and he wishes he had bought the Mercedes . Like your Tyre guy I stick with Mercedes and for much the same reasons . I also know my way around them and have a good Mercedes trained Technician which makes all the difference . I also buy rather than lease and I don't believe when all is said and done I can buy a better commercial vehicle than a Mercedes . High mileages attained and second hand values I believe supports my theory . Accy Stan will be on now telling me how wrong I am and fair play to him thats his viewpoint . Im just not convinced .Post 71 plate. Unless you got old stock, the new 2.1 becomes trouble around 100k. Timing chain issues normally, but other issues too.
It's telling that the EE Sloggers, with their big tilts and boxes, sleeping pods on the roof, have now completely dumped the Sprinter in favour of Iveco and Renault mainly.
These trucks do miles that very few UK vans and trucks do.
My tyre guy runs half a dozen from 68 to 25, he is sticking with them on previous reputation and experience, but has already had to replace one engine in a later one. another he didn't ignore the timing chain rattle and got it done.
Had a few drive train issues recently too, prop shaft and diff failure.
reddiesel said:
Doesitdrive said:
In 1998 the Sprinter was a revelation. How new are the ones you have now.?
Post 71 plate. Unless you got old stock, the new 2.1 becomes trouble around 100k. Timing chain issues normally, but other issues too.
It's telling that the EE Sloggers, with their big tilts and boxes, sleeping pods on the roof, have now completely dumped the Sprinter in favour of Iveco and Renault mainly.
These trucks do miles that very few UK vans and trucks do.
My tyre guy runs half a dozen from 68 to 25, he is sticking with them on previous reputation and experience, but has already had to replace one engine in a later one. another he didn't ignore the timing chain rattle and got it done.
Had a few drive train issues recently too, prop shaft and diff failure.
The latest Sprinters have been a mixed experience if I am being honest . Too much unnecessary tech which often doesn't work the screen going blank for no reason then correcting itself , again for no reason . The Stereo volume is also pretty poor . Compared to earlier versions these Sprinters just seem a pretty average built to a price product . Mine are all on 19 plates and engine wise I have had no issues apart from a solitary knock sensor . All are sitting around 135,000 miles , all are dropside and on the Building Sites lead a hard life . Filters and oil are changed every 5000 miles and thats been my experience . Accy Stan has in the past praised the Iveco . but I have a Bricklaying Contractor with an Iveco dropside and he wishes he had bought the Mercedes . Like your Tyre guy I stick with Mercedes and for much the same reasons . I also know my way around them and have a good Mercedes trained Technician which makes all the difference . I also buy rather than lease and I don't believe when all is said and done I can buy a better commercial vehicle than a Mercedes . High mileages attained and second hand values I believe supports my theory . Accy Stan will be on now telling me how wrong I am and fair play to him thats his viewpoint . Im just not convinced .Post 71 plate. Unless you got old stock, the new 2.1 becomes trouble around 100k. Timing chain issues normally, but other issues too.
It's telling that the EE Sloggers, with their big tilts and boxes, sleeping pods on the roof, have now completely dumped the Sprinter in favour of Iveco and Renault mainly.
These trucks do miles that very few UK vans and trucks do.
My tyre guy runs half a dozen from 68 to 25, he is sticking with them on previous reputation and experience, but has already had to replace one engine in a later one. another he didn't ignore the timing chain rattle and got it done.
Had a few drive train issues recently too, prop shaft and diff failure.
3 years in with the Iveco now, it was due a change after 2 years, it replaced both a Sprinter and a Nissan , kept the Sprinter at first as back up, 6 months of doing nothing meant it had to go.
It ain't going after 3 years either, a twin wheel rear suits transport much better, it handles everything thrown at it.
A recommended change of oil grade last year was a little concerning .
If anyone didn't know it was 5/30 to 0/30 for 22 reg onwards.
Yours are pre the new engine, that might change your mind.
Friends manage a very large Tesco fleet, that new engine has created a lot of work for them, they were grateful when new Iveco began arriving.
The Maxus caused them lots of work too, and Tesco, retraining drivers when the realised they were rated and 4.2 tonnes.
They have realised now that a mix of EV and Diesel for different applications works best . They are ordering Iveco for both in this fleet area.
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