new iveco vans trash!
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anyone else drive these. Compete trollop and junk as well as a danger to driver.
The stop start kicks in late/ early as you are already starting to pull out from a junction.
the lane assist is crazy and yanks at the wheel detecting lines that arnt there or if you are driving on single track road it detects both sides and tries to launch you into a ditch.
Worst of all is the AEBS it just about killed me today.
driving at 38 in a 40 round a slight corner. car parked out the outside of the corner close to to the road edge. Miles away from hitting it and the system kicked in and auto slammed on the bloody brakes.
Had it been snowy id have been forced straight on with the front end locking up.
These "safety" features are a blooming joke and being a multidrop drive its a ballache having to switch them off manually every singel time 30 times a day.
The stop start kicks in late/ early as you are already starting to pull out from a junction.
the lane assist is crazy and yanks at the wheel detecting lines that arnt there or if you are driving on single track road it detects both sides and tries to launch you into a ditch.
Worst of all is the AEBS it just about killed me today.
driving at 38 in a 40 round a slight corner. car parked out the outside of the corner close to to the road edge. Miles away from hitting it and the system kicked in and auto slammed on the bloody brakes.
Had it been snowy id have been forced straight on with the front end locking up.
These "safety" features are a blooming joke and being a multidrop drive its a ballache having to switch them off manually every singel time 30 times a day.
Thankfully, so far, this foolish interference with the steering hasn't affected large HGVs and you have my sympathy, you;d hope they couldn't come up with anything more ridiculous but never fear they will, the day i get in a truck and find the vehicle interfering with the steering is the day i stop driving trucks or find a job with an older truck...not likely to happen because i'm at the very end of my truck driving days and i won't be having a car that does this either.
As for AEBS, have had this on the trucks issued to me since 2019.
Its not possible to switch AEBS off and its not something i would do anyway because you just know that should something happen, anythiing at all, you'll be in the frame regardless of circs or fault....have a read of the drivers manual see if there's some weasel wording informing you that you, the driver, are in control and ultimately responsible regardless.
I've modified my driving to avoid the system doing its worse, the 2019 truck i had until last year was rather too eager to apply the brakes (milliseconds after wailing at you like some demented banshee), and the different approaches i had to make to chicane or situations as you descibe above were not in fact safer approaches but did help prevent the vehicle itself from doing something stupid likely to cause a problem, like yourself i had a few nasty moments whilst modifying my driving to suit, ie 20 ish mph through a chicane type section with centre road bollards, truck stopped dead for no reason good luck to the bloke behind.
It was replaced by a Scania and that hasn't so far actually applied the brakes for me, it gives a warning once in a while but isn't as sensitive as the MAN was, so far.
You'll get used to it in time well the brakes at least, doubt the steering will improve but sensitivity might be able to be dialed back if you put the issue in *writing* to the company and maintenance/service dept, typically via a defect note.
As for AEBS, have had this on the trucks issued to me since 2019.
Its not possible to switch AEBS off and its not something i would do anyway because you just know that should something happen, anythiing at all, you'll be in the frame regardless of circs or fault....have a read of the drivers manual see if there's some weasel wording informing you that you, the driver, are in control and ultimately responsible regardless.
I've modified my driving to avoid the system doing its worse, the 2019 truck i had until last year was rather too eager to apply the brakes (milliseconds after wailing at you like some demented banshee), and the different approaches i had to make to chicane or situations as you descibe above were not in fact safer approaches but did help prevent the vehicle itself from doing something stupid likely to cause a problem, like yourself i had a few nasty moments whilst modifying my driving to suit, ie 20 ish mph through a chicane type section with centre road bollards, truck stopped dead for no reason good luck to the bloke behind.
It was replaced by a Scania and that hasn't so far actually applied the brakes for me, it gives a warning once in a while but isn't as sensitive as the MAN was, so far.
You'll get used to it in time well the brakes at least, doubt the steering will improve but sensitivity might be able to be dialed back if you put the issue in *writing* to the company and maintenance/service dept, typically via a defect note.
- always put such safety issues in writing, let them know you have a copy, you've included them in the blame any future mishap where the issue is a contributory factor, verbal complaint only never happened.
You better get used to these things and work with them.
You’ll get to know what the systems are seeing and drive around them, AEB is over ridden by a sharp throttle input for example same with the lane dragging, although you can usually semi permanently dial back the assistance on that in most vehicles, and again, if you’re holding the wheel properly, it’s no effort to steer against it, no worse that a minor rut.
I was more for extra testing and tougher sentences for drivers to raise the standard, but it hasn’t happened and we have all this electronic guff to try and save pedestrians etc. Instead.
You’ll get to know what the systems are seeing and drive around them, AEB is over ridden by a sharp throttle input for example same with the lane dragging, although you can usually semi permanently dial back the assistance on that in most vehicles, and again, if you’re holding the wheel properly, it’s no effort to steer against it, no worse that a minor rut.
I was more for extra testing and tougher sentences for drivers to raise the standard, but it hasn’t happened and we have all this electronic guff to try and save pedestrians etc. Instead.
Yep, Our brilliant 69 plate sprinters have been replaced with 74 plate Iveco's, Not impressed! They look and feel dead cheap, The cabs are cramped, Dated and full of crap hard plastics, The drivers seat is narrow and kills my old hips after an hour of driving, As well as the driver 'Assist's!' being a massive and dangerous hindrance, The engines sound like a 1980's transit 2.5 DI Banana, The suspension is awful and crashy, I'm convinced my spine is getting compressed, The front end starts hopping about when you hit a load of bumps, The chassis flex is terrible, Park them with one side on the curb or up a steep incline and you can't get the chiller or freezer doors to open so have to shunt the van somewhere dead level! Every time you lock them the alarm goes off, IAnd you have to unlock them on the key because it won't recognise the remote, Intermittent fuel gauge readings and the odometer shows miles but calculates in Kilometer's! Half of the vans we are using ATM are old Sprinters that should have been sold off but we need them as so many Iveco's are off the road, After having their 1st services done they are being picked up on fuel and oil leaks and one has had to have a new diff! Also the stupid auto box engine braking software that drops the van down 3 gears at the sniff of a descent making you have to manually shift up to stop you looking like a right tit to the general public going downhill with the engine revving it's nut's off, Yep, I love em!
Edited by klunkT5 on Sunday 27th April 11:28
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