Transit Engines Recalled What’s going on?
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We have had yet another Transit 2.0 eco blue blow up
A replacement engine arrived but we’ve been told to return it as it may be faulty.
Seems that there’s a big problem with wet belts or something and Ford will not supply belts or engines.
No date for re-availability given!
This means we have an 18 plate Transit stood idle with no idea of when it can be repaired.
We can’t change any wet belts on our other Transits when they become due either.
What on Earth is going on?
A replacement engine arrived but we’ve been told to return it as it may be faulty.
Seems that there’s a big problem with wet belts or something and Ford will not supply belts or engines.
No date for re-availability given!
This means we have an 18 plate Transit stood idle with no idea of when it can be repaired.
We can’t change any wet belts on our other Transits when they become due either.
What on Earth is going on?
Patch1875 said:
My 16 plate went in for an inspection a while ago as part of the recall, turned out nothing was required but I have a fear it’s going to go pop at some point.
Anyone know what why are checking for when they get inspected?
Allegedly, the wet belt starts to produce debris in the oil, which causes oil pump failure. The check is the quality of the oil. So they say.Anyone know what why are checking for when they get inspected?
Found this.
https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/64...
Mines is one of the early 2.0’s seems to suggest that up to 17/18 plates are covered but later ones not?
I’ve covered 65k so might look to getting the belt changed(if I can!) for a bit of peace of mind.
https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/64...
Mines is one of the early 2.0’s seems to suggest that up to 17/18 plates are covered but later ones not?
I’ve covered 65k so might look to getting the belt changed(if I can!) for a bit of peace of mind.
normalbloke said:
Allegedly, the wet belt starts to produce debris in the oil, which causes oil pump failure. The check is the quality of the oil. So they say.
Mines is services out the dealer network now but I source the correct oil and filters through a friend at a factors and my indie garage fits them. I’ve been getting it serviced every year so hopefully that helps.The wet belt breaks up, blocks the strainer and starves the engine of oil. Early warning signs can be a low oil pressure warning or the vacuum pump for the brakes packing up.
I thought the recall inspection involved looking at the belt to see if it had signs of delamination.
It's been ongoing for a while and is somewhat hit and miss. We have a van that wasn't subject to the recall, but subsequently had the belt break up. Ours fired a low oil pressure warning up so we stopped it there and then. That action saved the engine.
I thought the recall inspection involved looking at the belt to see if it had signs of delamination.
It's been ongoing for a while and is somewhat hit and miss. We have a van that wasn't subject to the recall, but subsequently had the belt break up. Ours fired a low oil pressure warning up so we stopped it there and then. That action saved the engine.
Patch1875 said:
Mines is services out the dealer network now but I source the correct oil and filters through a friend at a factors and my indie garage fits them. I’ve been getting it serviced every year so hopefully that helps.
I don't think it makes much difference, our van (see my post above) was serviced on schedule with genuine oil and filters but still had wet belt issues.I've heard various theories about why, one was that they had the 'wrong' put in at the factory, another was that the dpf regeneration was diluting the oil with diesel and causing the belt to delaminate. I don't know the truth.
Hard to imagine how a maufacture like Ford can come up with such an Idea as having the belt inside the engine!
I'm convinced that cam belts are just a cash cow to be milked for all it's worth. you used to be able to change one on your drive with basic tools in a couple of hours, but now you need a dozen special tools and £££'s worth of stretch bolts and a lift to do it.
Even simple four pot VAG engines you are looking £1k+
I'm convinced that cam belts are just a cash cow to be milked for all it's worth. you used to be able to change one on your drive with basic tools in a couple of hours, but now you need a dozen special tools and £££'s worth of stretch bolts and a lift to do it.
Even simple four pot VAG engines you are looking £1k+
I’m now thinking that because one of the first signs of belt breakup is the failure of the vacuum pump, that someone has lost servo assistance and crashed badly.
Leading to lawyer involvement and a corporate scramble to limit damage perhaps?
Those with long memories may recall the Ford Pinto when corporate greed led to a number of people burning to death before the whistle was blown.
Can’t do links but googling “Pinto scandal” should bring up the appalling story.
Leading to lawyer involvement and a corporate scramble to limit damage perhaps?
Those with long memories may recall the Ford Pinto when corporate greed led to a number of people burning to death before the whistle was blown.
Can’t do links but googling “Pinto scandal” should bring up the appalling story.
Easternlight said:
Hard to imagine how a maufacture like Ford can come up with such an Idea as having the belt inside the engine!
I'm convinced that cam belts are just a cash cow to be milked for all it's worth. you used to be able to change one on your drive with basic tools in a couple of hours, but now you need a dozen special tools and £££'s worth of stretch bolts and a lift to do it.
Even simple four pot VAG engines you are looking £1k+
They have lower friction therefore shave off a couple of grams of co2. I'm convinced that cam belts are just a cash cow to be milked for all it's worth. you used to be able to change one on your drive with basic tools in a couple of hours, but now you need a dozen special tools and £££'s worth of stretch bolts and a lift to do it.
Even simple four pot VAG engines you are looking £1k+
Easternlight said:
Hard to imagine how a maufacture like Ford can come up with such an Idea as having the belt inside the engine!
I'm convinced that cam belts are just a cash cow to be milked for all it's worth. you used to be able to change one on your drive with basic tools in a couple of hours, but now you need a dozen special tools and £££'s worth of stretch bolts and a lift to do it.
Even simple four pot VAG engines you are looking £1k+
Its common though, at least Ford go with 10 years for the blt change unlike VW group that are 4/5, The 1.0 ecoboost has the same issue as do the 1.0 and 1.2 PSA engines. Its not like BMW/VW can make chain driven engines either.I'm convinced that cam belts are just a cash cow to be milked for all it's worth. you used to be able to change one on your drive with basic tools in a couple of hours, but now you need a dozen special tools and £££'s worth of stretch bolts and a lift to do it.
Even simple four pot VAG engines you are looking £1k+
budgie smuggler said:
Easternlight said:
Hard to imagine how a maufacture like Ford can come up with such an Idea as having the belt inside the engine!
I'm convinced that cam belts are just a cash cow to be milked for all it's worth. you used to be able to change one on your drive with basic tools in a couple of hours, but now you need a dozen special tools and £££'s worth of stretch bolts and a lift to do it.
Even simple four pot VAG engines you are looking £1k+
They have lower friction therefore shave off a couple of grams of co2. I'm convinced that cam belts are just a cash cow to be milked for all it's worth. you used to be able to change one on your drive with basic tools in a couple of hours, but now you need a dozen special tools and £££'s worth of stretch bolts and a lift to do it.
Even simple four pot VAG engines you are looking £1k+
According to my guy the belts are delaminating.
Currently have four of these off the road and another one limping along with leaking injector seals.
One has blown up and we can’t get an engine another won’t stop regenerating and filled the sump with diesel, can’t put that back on the road even if we cure the fault because the unavailable wet belt will need replacing due to contamination.
These vehicles have been serviced every 6,000 miles and still constantly give grief.
On the other hand the chassis seem very tough, no good though if the engine is wrecked.
One has blown up and we can’t get an engine another won’t stop regenerating and filled the sump with diesel, can’t put that back on the road even if we cure the fault because the unavailable wet belt will need replacing due to contamination.
These vehicles have been serviced every 6,000 miles and still constantly give grief.
On the other hand the chassis seem very tough, no good though if the engine is wrecked.
I had a Ford 'wet belt' fail on my 12 plate connect a while back, just north of Seville in southern Spain!
Upon inspection the rising piston in No1 cylinder had belted a valve, causing the camshaft to snap in two places. Total mileage was a little over 134k, the swap interval for this belt is shown by Ford to be 150k miles......and it took six weeks for the recovery firm to get it back to North Norfolk!
Upon inspection the rising piston in No1 cylinder had belted a valve, causing the camshaft to snap in two places. Total mileage was a little over 134k, the swap interval for this belt is shown by Ford to be 150k miles......and it took six weeks for the recovery firm to get it back to North Norfolk!
stevemcs said:
Its common though, at least Ford go with 10 years for the blt change unlike VW group that are 4/5, The 1.0 ecoboost has the same issue as do the 1.0 and 1.2 PSA engines. Its not like BMW/VW can make chain driven engines either.
The Honda 1L engines have them as well. All are falling apart inside the engine now as enough years have passed since the manufacturers started using them.Gassing Station | Commercial Break | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff