Any Gritter drivers on here?

Any Gritter drivers on here?

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HelterSkelter

Original Poster:

143 posts

149 months

Thursday 21st October 2021
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As we are technically into gritting season now are there any other drivers on PH... council or National Highways (Highways England)?

I've had my Winter Maintenance ticket for 5 years now and grit for NH. We've had a new fleet of Volvos with Romaquip bodies in for this season. Anyone have experience with them?






snowandrocks

1,054 posts

149 months

Friday 22nd October 2021
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Out of interest - are you just employed seasonally or do you cover other duties over the summer months?

elanfan

5,527 posts

234 months

Friday 22nd October 2021
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What’s your favourite John Wayne film?

Defcon5

6,304 posts

198 months

Friday 22nd October 2021
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I always thought gritter drivers were the bin lorry drivers

HelterSkelter

Original Poster:

143 posts

149 months

Friday 22nd October 2021
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snowandrocks said:
Out of interest - are you just employed seasonally or do you cover other duties over the summer months?
We do maintenance all year round... crash barrier repairs, resurfacing, lane closures, incident response etc. Gritting is just an extra thing that gets in the way for 6 months.

Defcon5 said:
I always thought gritter drivers were the bin lorry drivers
That's probably the case on the council side.

leggly

1,832 posts

218 months

Friday 22nd October 2021
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I work for the local council on the gritting during the winter, the rest of the year we do road maintenance from relaying tarmac to getting down on to our hands and knees with a trowel to clean out cattle grids. The wages are shockingly bad but the variation in daily duties is great. No experience with Romaquip kit sorry.

surveyor

18,139 posts

191 months

Saturday 23rd October 2021
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HelterSkelter said:
snowandrocks said:
Out of interest - are you just employed seasonally or do you cover other duties over the summer months?
We do maintenance all year round... crash barrier repairs, resurfacing, lane closures, incident response etc. Gritting is just an extra thing that gets in the way for 6 months.

Defcon5 said:
I always thought gritter drivers were the bin lorry drivers
That's probably the case on the council side.
The Council side can be anyone. Head of Estates at rural county council drove them for a bit of fun!

Chrisgr31

13,741 posts

262 months

Monday 25th October 2021
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How do tacho rules work when doing gritters? Surely people start running out of hours?

Squadrone Rosso

2,913 posts

154 months

Monday 25th October 2021
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Does your local authority have a sense of humour like ours?

https://www.npt.gov.uk/26487

geeks

9,737 posts

146 months

Monday 25th October 2021
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Squadrone Rosso said:
Does your local authority have a sense of humour like ours?

https://www.npt.gov.uk/26487
Can I ask. How exact is this a word? Cwmtwrch. It looks like my attempt at texting when full of beer! (yes I am aware "it's Welsh you tard!")

HelterSkelter

Original Poster:

143 posts

149 months

Thursday 28th October 2021
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Chrisgr31 said:
How do tacho rules work when doing gritters? Surely people start running out of hours?
We're on domestic rules for all our trucks, not just the gritters.

944 Man

1,814 posts

139 months

Friday 29th October 2021
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Chrisgr31 said:
How do tacho rules work when doing gritters? Surely people start running out of hours?
Out of scope.

blueST

4,483 posts

223 months

Friday 29th October 2021
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Do they run on red diesel too? Someone told me they did.

944 Man

1,814 posts

139 months

Friday 29th October 2021
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Plant can run on red diesel. I am not sure that a gritter/plough is plant though.

Fabric

3,820 posts

199 months

Saturday 30th October 2021
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blueST said:
Do they run on red diesel too? Someone told me they did.
Yep. Provided they're purpose built gritters.

ReverendCounter

6,087 posts

183 months

Saturday 30th October 2021
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Mr Plow, that's my name
That name again, it's Mr Plow

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TEZIh7lQ3dc

anonymous-user

61 months

Saturday 30th October 2021
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How do you get to work in bad winters?

Vw bug ? Lol

944 Man

1,814 posts

139 months

Saturday 30th October 2021
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Fabric said:
blueST said:
Do they run on red diesel too? Someone told me they did.
Yep. Provided they're purpose built gritters.
Highways Agency kit used to be, but every local authority vehicle that I have seen recently has been a jack of all trades.

snowandrocks

1,054 posts

149 months

Saturday 30th October 2021
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I think there's a distinction between ploughing snow and gritting.

Any vehicle actually ploughing snow can use red whether it's a tractor or lorry or whatever.

Gritting on the other hand can only use red if they're purpose built.

The army of tractors that keep the roads open here in Aberdeenshire are certainly running on red in any case. They have an arrangement where the council supply and maintain the actual plough then pay the farmer an hourly rate for being out.

Edited by snowandrocks on Saturday 30th October 12:59

Fabric

3,820 posts

199 months

Saturday 30th October 2021
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snowandrocks said:
I think there's a distinction between ploughing snow and gritting.

Any vehicle actually ploughing snow can use red whether it's a tractor or lorry or whatever.

Gritting on the other hand can only use red if they're purpose built.

The army of tractors that keep the roads open here in Aberdeenshire are certainly running on red in any case. They have an arrangement where the council supply and maintain the actual plough then pay the farmer an hourly rate for being out.

Edited by snowandrocks on Saturday 30th October 12:59
Interestingly there's actually no distinction between the two, otherwise you'd risk creating a loophole that allows gritters to be allowed to run on red for spreading material outside of winter months; i.e: spreading granules to soak up fuel and oil at RTC sites, or summer surface gritting to prevent tar melting in hotter weather, etc.

It's worded in law as "to deal with frost, ice, or snow" (Fuels for use in vehicles (Excise Notice 75) section 8.11 - March 2019), and basically covers all duties related to winter maintenance, provided it's a purpose built truck, or something that's been converted for use for the duration of the winter months (think bolted on, rather than strapped on); and specifically covers either snow/ice removal, related training duties, or travelling to a place of maintenance.

Tractors were entitled to use red from 2013 onward under the Hydrocarbon Oil Duties Act amendments afaik - which aimed to take some of the rural loads away from local authorities, allowing them to prioritise other routes, and is frankly a great thing if you happen to drive in rural areas in the winter! thumbup