Cheap and cheerful or just avoid?

Cheap and cheerful or just avoid?

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Angpozzuto

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1,004 posts

116 months

Saturday 12th December 2020
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I'm currently looking for a replacement for my swb transit and I've come across the ldv v80. They seem way cheaper than anything equivalent and reasonably well specced. has anyone had one? How bad could it be?

normalbloke

7,713 posts

226 months

Saturday 12th December 2020
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Cheap, yes, cheerful? probably not, but do report. back.

Angpozzuto

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1,004 posts

116 months

Saturday 12th December 2020
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normalbloke said:
Cheap, yes, cheerful? probably not, but do report. back.
I was planning on visiting the dealer before Christmas anyway but I was hoping someone on here might have tried one

powerstroke

10,283 posts

167 months

Saturday 12th December 2020
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Have a test drive and see what you think,
If you’re happy and the figures look ok why not ,

My guess is it will be worthless after a few years
So lease or PCP with a guaranteed future value
Do not buy with hard earned !!

Jag_NE

3,100 posts

107 months

Saturday 12th December 2020
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powerstroke said:
Have a test drive and see what you think,
If you’re happy and the figures look ok why not ,

My guess is it will be worthless after a few years
So lease or PCP with a guaranteed future value
Do not buy with hard earned !!
Lease or pcp payments will reflect the horrendous residuals. You will be sucking up massive depreciation regardless of how you pay for it. I think they have a decent warranty so you can take a reasonably long term view on running one.

Darkslider

3,075 posts

196 months

Saturday 12th December 2020
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I think at ten years old for shed money they make a lot of sense, but the depreciation is far too horrendous to stomach new or nearly new for me!

Coin-Slot

1,965 posts

50 months

Saturday 12th December 2020
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About two years ago we had a rep trying to get us to lease one of these. It was something silly like £450 a month, a T6 was £310ish.

Also I’ve seen new Traffics for £13ish plus vat, not recently, but last year.

Angpozzuto

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1,004 posts

116 months

Sunday 13th December 2020
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Coin-Slot said:
About two years ago we had a rep trying to get us to lease one of these. It was something silly like £450 a month, a T6 was £310ish.

Also I’ve seen new Traffics for £13ish plus vat, not recently, but last year.
Every other Van I've looked at is at least £16500 plus vat where the ldv is £16k Inc vat and the 5 year warranty is a big selling point

Coin-Slot

1,965 posts

50 months

Sunday 13th December 2020
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We definitely got two traffics last year for about £13k each, +vat and you could add extra warranty for few hundred quid.

I’m not with the company anymore or I’d find out where they came from.

Will LDV be around in 5 years is the other thing to think about?

powerstroke

10,283 posts

167 months

Sunday 13th December 2020
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Angpozzuto said:
Coin-Slot said:
About two years ago we had a rep trying to get us to lease one of these. It was something silly like £450 a month, a T6 was £310ish.

Also I’ve seen new Traffics for £13ish plus vat, not recently, but last year.
Every other Van I've looked at is at least £16500 plus vat where the ldv is £16k Inc vat and the 5 year warranty is a big selling point
Yes but how much will it be worth ,
Depreciation is a a big lump of the cost of ownership
Mind probably a good way of making people feel sorry for you and you won’t have it stolen unless there is something valuable in it !! So maybe there’s an upside...

Darkslider

3,075 posts

196 months

Sunday 13th December 2020
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Can you find an older Maxus with not many miles on it to save some £? They're essentially the same van, the V80 is built by Chinese firm SAIC who bought all the tooling so you're basically buying the same vehicle that was launched in 2004… this is why they get a bad rep as £13k for what is essentially a 16 year old van with a shiny grille doesn't start to look as cheap when you could get a low miles 1-2 year old model from any of the other manufacturers for similar money.

normalbloke

7,713 posts

226 months

Sunday 13th December 2020
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[quote=Darkslider]Can you find an older Maxus with not many miles on it to save some £? They're essentially the same van, the V80 is built by Chinese firm SAIC who bought all the tooling so you're basically buying the same vehicle that was launched in 2004… this is why they get a bad rep as £13k for what is essentially a 16 year old van with a shiny grille doesn't start to look as cheap when you could get a low miles 1-2 year old model from any of the other manufacturers for similar money.[/quotI guess if you budget it being worth zero at end of warranty of 5 years, it’s a cheap wagon for Euro 6.

Angpozzuto

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1,004 posts

116 months

Sunday 13th December 2020
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Darkslider said:
Can you find an older Maxus with not many miles on it to save some £? They're essentially the same van, the V80 is built by Chinese firm SAIC who bought all the tooling so you're basically buying the same vehicle that was launched in 2004… this is why they get a bad rep as £13k for what is essentially a 16 year old van with a shiny grille doesn't start to look as cheap when you could get a low miles 1-2 year old model from any of the other manufacturers for similar money.
Tbh I actually really like my 12 plate transit but with the ulez starting next year and my van needing a few repairs I'm better off getting a newer van now. I just don't want to spend more than I need to, I'd rather blow my spare cash on fun stuff

Darkslider

3,075 posts

196 months

Sunday 13th December 2020
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Angpozzuto said:
Darkslider said:
Can you find an older Maxus with not many miles on it to save some £? They're essentially the same van, the V80 is built by Chinese firm SAIC who bought all the tooling so you're basically buying the same vehicle that was launched in 2004… this is why they get a bad rep as £13k for what is essentially a 16 year old van with a shiny grille doesn't start to look as cheap when you could get a low miles 1-2 year old model from any of the other manufacturers for similar money.
Tbh I actually really like my 12 plate transit but with the ulez starting next year and my van needing a few repairs I'm better off getting a newer van now. I just don't want to spend more than I need to, I'd rather blow my spare cash on fun stuff
Ah right, if you need a van for London that casts a different light on things and being in North Wales not something I have the faintest idea about. Just make sure you test drive one before you hand over your money, a mate of mine had a brand new (2008) Maxus as a courtesy car while his Mk5 Smiley transit was being repaired, he said it was so awful to drive he couldn't wait to get back in his ancient non turbo tranny which speaks volumes. While they might have improved engines and emissions since then I'm not sure how much comfort or general driveability has improved so you probably want to check that for yourself!

bristolracer

5,629 posts

156 months

Monday 14th December 2020
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Do you need transit sized?
I downsized to a Peugeot Partner last time, good value van, better reliability than the VW it replaced, much better MPG

I would steer clear of the LDV,its cheap for a reason

Angpozzuto

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1,004 posts

116 months

Monday 14th December 2020
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bristolracer said:
Do you need transit sized?
I downsized to a Peugeot Partner last time, good value van, better reliability than the VW it replaced, much better MPG

I would steer clear of the LDV,its cheap for a reason
I had a look at the smaller vans but they seem just a bit too short as the longest boxes i need to load up are 2.1m plus the lower payload doesn't help

Mercury00

4,140 posts

163 months

Saturday 19th December 2020
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Aren't these based on the Sherpa?

Teddy Lop

8,301 posts

74 months

Saturday 19th December 2020
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Mercury00 said:
Aren't these based on the Sherpa?
no it was a kind of "new" design but not all that.

LDV being kept alive and sent here by the Chinese is probably more egregious than covid.

Coin-Slot

1,965 posts

50 months

Saturday 19th December 2020
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Mercury00 said:
Aren't these based on the Sherpa?
That was the LDV Convoy - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LDV_Convoy

Register1

2,279 posts

101 months

Saturday 20th February 2021
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bristolracer said:
Do you need transit sized?
I downsized to a Peugeot Partner last time, good value van, better reliability than the VW it replaced, much better MPG

I would steer clear of the LDV,its cheap for a reason
Peugeot Partner is surprisingly big inside.
Fold the passenger seat, and its massive.
Also has 3 seats in the front.
I get a new one from work every 3 years, and I always do around 43,000 miles before I hand it back for a new one.
Ultimately reliable.
General driving 50 mpg.
Motorway at say 65mph on cruise gives over 60 mpg.
Quite good value for money I would say.