Vivaro VS Transit Custom
Discussion
I've run the Renault version of the Vivaro vans since 1985. I buy them new run them for 10 years or about 150K miles then buy another.
I have also run one Transit van, I bought it new, it failed its first MOT and I sold it straight afterwards as it did about 25 mpg and always had something going wrong, the dual mass flywheel left me stranded once.
The Renaults were far more reliable, my last van a 2010 LWB Sport has needed a MAF sensor and EGR valve during it's 130K miles. Just to note I had it re-mapped when it had about 500 miles on it and didn't tell the Renault garage so it was serviced by them to keep the warranty (I know bit of a mine field) I've decided to keep this one 15 years as I like it a lot.
Of course buying secondhand throws in so many variables as to whether it's been properly and regularly serviced or driven by someone with no mechanical sympathy.
I have also run one Transit van, I bought it new, it failed its first MOT and I sold it straight afterwards as it did about 25 mpg and always had something going wrong, the dual mass flywheel left me stranded once.
The Renaults were far more reliable, my last van a 2010 LWB Sport has needed a MAF sensor and EGR valve during it's 130K miles. Just to note I had it re-mapped when it had about 500 miles on it and didn't tell the Renault garage so it was serviced by them to keep the warranty (I know bit of a mine field) I've decided to keep this one 15 years as I like it a lot.
Of course buying secondhand throws in so many variables as to whether it's been properly and regularly serviced or driven by someone with no mechanical sympathy.
Edited by BIRMA on Saturday 28th November 16:09
BIRMA said:
I've run the Renault version of the Vivaro vans since 1985. I buy them new run them for 10 years or about 150K miles then buy another.
I have also run one Transit van, I bought it new, it failed its first MOT and I sold it straight afterwards as it did about 25 mpg and always had something going wrong, the dual mass flywheel left me stranded once.
The Renaults were far more reliable, my last van a 2010 LWB Sport has needed a MAF sensor and EGR valve during it's 130K miles. Just to note I had it re-mapped when it had about 500 miles on it and didn't tell the Renault garage so it was serviced by them to keep the warranty (I know bit of a mine field) I've decided to keep this one 15 years as I like it a lot.
Of course buying secondhand throws in so many variables as to whether it's been properly and regularly serviced or driven by someone with no mechanical sympathy.
Many thanks for the response! I have also run one Transit van, I bought it new, it failed its first MOT and I sold it straight afterwards as it did about 25 mpg and always had something going wrong, the dual mass flywheel left me stranded once.
The Renaults were far more reliable, my last van a 2010 LWB Sport has needed a MAF sensor and EGR valve during it's 130K miles. Just to note I had it re-mapped when it had about 500 miles on it and didn't tell the Renault garage so it was serviced by them to keep the warranty (I know bit of a mine field) I've decided to keep this one 15 years as I like it a lot.
Of course buying secondhand throws in so many variables as to whether it's been properly and regularly serviced or driven by someone with no mechanical sympathy.
Edited by BIRMA on Saturday 28th November 16:09
Have you had any random electrical gremlins crop up? As I'm a member of a couple of TVP groups on FB and bar the chain and the injectors the other common faults with those vans seem to be random electrical niggles.
On another note, I have found the following Vivaro which I like, slightly over budget but it looks to have been really well looked after, yay or nay?
https://www.anchorvans.co.uk/van/38497-vauxhall-vi...
Cromises said:
BIRMA said:
I've run the Renault version of the Vivaro vans since 1985. I buy them new run them for 10 years or about 150K miles then buy another.
I have also run one Transit van, I bought it new, it failed its first MOT and I sold it straight afterwards as it did about 25 mpg and always had something going wrong, the dual mass flywheel left me stranded once.
The Renaults were far more reliable, my last van a 2010 LWB Sport has needed a MAF sensor and EGR valve during it's 130K miles. Just to note I had it re-mapped when it had about 500 miles on it and didn't tell the Renault garage so it was serviced by them to keep the warranty (I know bit of a mine field) I've decided to keep this one 15 years as I like it a lot.
Of course buying secondhand throws in so many variables as to whether it's been properly and regularly serviced or driven by someone with no mechanical sympathy.
Many thanks for the response! I have also run one Transit van, I bought it new, it failed its first MOT and I sold it straight afterwards as it did about 25 mpg and always had something going wrong, the dual mass flywheel left me stranded once.
The Renaults were far more reliable, my last van a 2010 LWB Sport has needed a MAF sensor and EGR valve during it's 130K miles. Just to note I had it re-mapped when it had about 500 miles on it and didn't tell the Renault garage so it was serviced by them to keep the warranty (I know bit of a mine field) I've decided to keep this one 15 years as I like it a lot.
Of course buying secondhand throws in so many variables as to whether it's been properly and regularly serviced or driven by someone with no mechanical sympathy.
Edited by BIRMA on Saturday 28th November 16:09
Have you had any random electrical gremlins crop up? As I'm a member of a couple of TVP groups on FB and bar the chain and the injectors the other common faults with those vans seem to be random electrical niggles.
On another note, I have found the following Vivaro which I like, slightly over budget but it looks to have been really well looked after, yay or nay?
https://www.anchorvans.co.uk/van/38497-vauxhall-vi...
The van you have highlighted looks in good condition, like I have mentioned buying secondhand is something I've never done. If the MOT history backs up the mileage and there is a full main dealer history then it should be okay. At that low a mileage it should have a fully stamped service book with proper dealer stamps, if not I'd be wary.
Just to add I did a search of Trafic and Vivaro vans on Autotrader putting a maximum mileage of 35K and started with cheapest first and got some fairly decent results may be worth trying.
Edited by BIRMA on Sunday 29th November 17:56
Edited by BIRMA on Tuesday 1st December 08:37
OK, I have some experience with Ford vans/mini buses and the Vivaro's (I have run both) and can offer the following:
2013 Transit - oil cooler failed and mixed with engine oil, crankshaft sensor played up.
2016 Transit - constant problems with DPF/EGR meaning a couple of visits to a main dealer who still couldn't fix it. Spent thousands on it.
2017 Tourneo - broke down because it ran out of adblue but didn't give any warning, failed MOT on emissions requiring a visit to main dealer to have further investigation and engine upgrades (software I believe) finally passed MOT.
2016 Vivaro's (x2) - one problem fixed under warranty (even though out of warranty - goodwill) zero other problems.
2014 Vivaro - not one issue, zero problems.
Never will I entertain another Ford, whatever price, whatever the deal - no.
Hope this helps.
2013 Transit - oil cooler failed and mixed with engine oil, crankshaft sensor played up.
2016 Transit - constant problems with DPF/EGR meaning a couple of visits to a main dealer who still couldn't fix it. Spent thousands on it.
2017 Tourneo - broke down because it ran out of adblue but didn't give any warning, failed MOT on emissions requiring a visit to main dealer to have further investigation and engine upgrades (software I believe) finally passed MOT.
2016 Vivaro's (x2) - one problem fixed under warranty (even though out of warranty - goodwill) zero other problems.
2014 Vivaro - not one issue, zero problems.
Never will I entertain another Ford, whatever price, whatever the deal - no.
Hope this helps.
Edited by minghis on Thursday 3rd December 19:08
I'd go Vivaro.
I've got a 2016 L2H1 Trafic, bought at 42k last may, now at 92k. Had a loose injector that caused a whole bunch of error codes and a trip to the garage, but other than track rod ends, brakes and services, it hasn't thrown up any big bills.
It does however have a ridiculously wide turning circle.
The GFs brother had a transit for work for a while, and it drank fuel.
And they're generally cheaper to buy
I've got a 2016 L2H1 Trafic, bought at 42k last may, now at 92k. Had a loose injector that caused a whole bunch of error codes and a trip to the garage, but other than track rod ends, brakes and services, it hasn't thrown up any big bills.
It does however have a ridiculously wide turning circle.
The GFs brother had a transit for work for a while, and it drank fuel.
And they're generally cheaper to buy
I've been in the same situation of late, which to choose? I'm a business user and ours are leased for 3 years so long term issues aren't a factor for me.
I've had Vivaro's for the past 2 lease periods but this time have swapped to the Custom in Mild hybrid form.
I've never had much in the way of issues with the Vivaro's bar the usual consumables and recall work, my colleague is on his 7th Transit and has never had much problems either, bar 2 recent attempted break ins. One of the others guys that had the Renault version however seemed to have lots of issues, clutches etc which is odd as he's the slowest, most economical driver out of us all and I imagined his van would be the best treated!
The new Vivaro has really stepped up on the tech front to compete with Ford but I read and watched as many reviews as I could before going for the Ford, there's not much in it per month between the two on as comparable specs as i could make but the smaller dimensions of the Vivaro put me off. My racking from the Vivaro I have now should easily transplant across to the Ford and in my limited experience the Ford has the roomier cabin area.
I really wanted to buy made in Britain but for what i require I think the Fords a better fit, this time! lets see...
I've had Vivaro's for the past 2 lease periods but this time have swapped to the Custom in Mild hybrid form.
I've never had much in the way of issues with the Vivaro's bar the usual consumables and recall work, my colleague is on his 7th Transit and has never had much problems either, bar 2 recent attempted break ins. One of the others guys that had the Renault version however seemed to have lots of issues, clutches etc which is odd as he's the slowest, most economical driver out of us all and I imagined his van would be the best treated!
The new Vivaro has really stepped up on the tech front to compete with Ford but I read and watched as many reviews as I could before going for the Ford, there's not much in it per month between the two on as comparable specs as i could make but the smaller dimensions of the Vivaro put me off. My racking from the Vivaro I have now should easily transplant across to the Ford and in my limited experience the Ford has the roomier cabin area.
I really wanted to buy made in Britain but for what i require I think the Fords a better fit, this time! lets see...
Richspec said:
I've been in the same situation of late, which to choose? I'm a business user and ours are leased for 3 years so long term issues aren't a factor for me.
I've had Vivaro's for the past 2 lease periods but this time have swapped to the Custom in Mild hybrid form.
I've never had much in the way of issues with the Vivaro's bar the usual consumables and recall work, my colleague is on his 7th Transit and has never had much problems either, bar 2 recent attempted break ins. One of the others guys that had the Renault version however seemed to have lots of issues, clutches etc which is odd as he's the slowest, most economical driver out of us all and I imagined his van would be the best treated!
The new Vivaro has really stepped up on the tech front to compete with Ford but I read and watched as many reviews as I could before going for the Ford, there's not much in it per month between the two on as comparable specs as i could make but the smaller dimensions of the Vivaro put me off. My racking from the Vivaro I have now should easily transplant across to the Ford and in my limited experience the Ford has the roomier cabin area.
I really wanted to buy made in Britain but for what i require I think the Fords a better fit, this time! lets see...
Interesting, I have had a look at both at this stage I am swinging more towards the Vivaro due to eh fa t that it's cheaper to buy a decent one and the security seems better. I think that most of the issues could be down to DPF's and the like as they need a good blast every now and then to clear them out. Shouldn't be a drama for me as mine'll be doing the majority of its driving on motorways and A roads. I've had Vivaro's for the past 2 lease periods but this time have swapped to the Custom in Mild hybrid form.
I've never had much in the way of issues with the Vivaro's bar the usual consumables and recall work, my colleague is on his 7th Transit and has never had much problems either, bar 2 recent attempted break ins. One of the others guys that had the Renault version however seemed to have lots of issues, clutches etc which is odd as he's the slowest, most economical driver out of us all and I imagined his van would be the best treated!
The new Vivaro has really stepped up on the tech front to compete with Ford but I read and watched as many reviews as I could before going for the Ford, there's not much in it per month between the two on as comparable specs as i could make but the smaller dimensions of the Vivaro put me off. My racking from the Vivaro I have now should easily transplant across to the Ford and in my limited experience the Ford has the roomier cabin area.
I really wanted to buy made in Britain but for what i require I think the Fords a better fit, this time! lets see...
Also the reason I'm not after a trafic, the Vivaros do seem to be better made!
minghis said:
OK, I have some experience with Ford vans/mini buses and the Vivaro's (I have run both) and can offer the following:
2013 Transit - oil cooler failed and mixed with engine oil, crankshaft sensor played up.
2016 Transit - constant problems with DPF/EGR meaning a couple of visits to a main dealer who still couldn't fix it. Spent thousands on it.
2017 Tourneo - broke down because it ran out of adblue but didn't give any warning, failed MOT on emissions requiring a visit to main dealer to have further investigation and engine upgrades (software I believe) finally passed MOT.
2016 Vivaro's (x2) - one problem fixed under warranty (even though out of warranty - goodwill) zero other problems.
2014 Vivaro - not one issue, zero problems.
Never will I entertain another Ford, whatever price, whatever the deal - no.
Hope this helps.
Pretty much why I'm after the Vivaro to be honest. That said I've heard a load of horror stories about turbo failure on the Biturbo versions and leaking radiator hoses knackering the engine. Have you had any experience of this? 2013 Transit - oil cooler failed and mixed with engine oil, crankshaft sensor played up.
2016 Transit - constant problems with DPF/EGR meaning a couple of visits to a main dealer who still couldn't fix it. Spent thousands on it.
2017 Tourneo - broke down because it ran out of adblue but didn't give any warning, failed MOT on emissions requiring a visit to main dealer to have further investigation and engine upgrades (software I believe) finally passed MOT.
2016 Vivaro's (x2) - one problem fixed under warranty (even though out of warranty - goodwill) zero other problems.
2014 Vivaro - not one issue, zero problems.
Never will I entertain another Ford, whatever price, whatever the deal - no.
Hope this helps.
Edited by minghis on Thursday 3rd December 19:08
Cromises said:
Interesting, I have had a look at both at this stage I am swinging more towards the Vivaro due to eh fa t that it's cheaper to buy a decent one and the security seems better. I think that most of the issues could be down to DPF's and the like as they need a good blast every now and then to clear them out. Shouldn't be a drama for me as mine'll be doing the majority of its driving on motorways and A roads.
Also the reason I'm not after a trafic, the Vivaros do seem to be better made!
Price isnt a factor for my choice as they are both within the monthly allowance i was set, the Vivaro was about a tenner cheaper and fully specced, there wasn't much i didn't tick on the configurator. Not so for the Ford!Also the reason I'm not after a trafic, the Vivaros do seem to be better made!
Security did alarm me a bit having read the stories and seen my colleagues damaged doorlock (twice). I've had an attempted break-in where they peeled open the metal of the back door near the lock but didnt get in. We were both hit in the same Premier inn carpark..
I've specced the Custom with uprated locks. It was last week i passed the details to the lease company and my manager but its all gone quiet, from being 'what do you want next' everyday so no idea on timescale, although my colleagues new Custom was delayed, due to Covid.
Probably 75% of my driving is Motorway so often gets a good warm through.
Cromises said:
Pretty much why I'm after the Vivaro to be honest. That said I've heard a load of horror stories about turbo failure on the Biturbo versions and leaking radiator hoses knackering the engine. Have you had any experience of this?
No, however we do have a biturbo that makes a loud whistling, noticeably so. When we got it I took it to the main dealer to ask what they thought and their response was that it is louder than usual but they noted it as under warranty at the time and to let them know if it gets louder.It has not given any problems.
minghis said:
Cromises said:
Pretty much why I'm after the Vivaro to be honest. That said I've heard a load of horror stories about turbo failure on the Biturbo versions and leaking radiator hoses knackering the engine. Have you had any experience of this?
No, however we do have a biturbo that makes a loud whistling, noticeably so. When we got it I took it to the main dealer to ask what they thought and their response was that it is louder than usual but they noted it as under warranty at the time and to let them know if it gets louder.It has not given any problems.
How many other Biturbos do you have on the fleet/access to, for comparison purposes?
How many miles has this particular one done?
How long has it been doing it?
Does it affect the drive?
Cromises said:
Interesting, I'm sorry but more waffling questions incoming!! ??
How many other Biturbos do you have on the fleet/access to, for comparison purposes?
How many miles has this particular one done?
How long has it been doing it?
Does it affect the drive?
We only have 3 Vivaro's two of which are biturbos so it's not lots. The rest are a mix of Ford and Citroen. The Vivaro's were very much a trial of whether they fit our specific need. Our aim is to standardise going forward. We usually buy 2-3 year old ones and this 'whistling' one has just over 30k (on a 16 plate) and we have had it for a year now. It had the whistle when we got it and it has not got worse.How many other Biturbos do you have on the fleet/access to, for comparison purposes?
How many miles has this particular one done?
How long has it been doing it?
Does it affect the drive?
It drives perfectly well, just sounds like there's an emergency vehicle siren in the area!
I have driven Vivaro Sportives (older model and current ones), Transits, T5 & 6, Sprinters, Crafters, Caddys, Partners and Dispatches as works vans for the last 8 years but when I came to buy one for myself I bought a Renault Trafic from a friend of my who bought it on my recomendation. (ready to go to Le Mans below) Its a 2016 SWB SportNav 125 which had done 15,000 in a year when i bought it. Its now done 56,000, gets its oil and filter changed every 8000 miles at the local Renault dealer.
It's comfy to drive, has all the toys i need except heated seats, big enough for me and my work, easy to park and does around 39mpg on average. Highest i saw was 48mpg on a slow run down to MK from Lancashire, the lowest was probably 33mpg on the way back from LM chasing the last train on sunday night. Mine has a tow bar and it happily tows our 27 foot caravan. All in all a great daily drive.
It's had the following done at my local renault dealer:
New rear shocker 8,000
New Gearbox 12,000
New rear shocker 18,000
Turbo Pressure sensor 22,000
New rear Shocker 30,000
New Rear Camera 30,000
Oil leak on cam cover 40,000
New Air con compressor 45,000
New Nox B sensor 54,000
Turbo Pressure sensor 54,000
As you can see not trouble free by any means but all done under warranty. The shocker replacements where all for the NSR one which would start to knock after a while, Renault had a issue with rear shocks on Kashcows so it may have been related to that but the last one has managed 25,000 miles now so maybe I got a good one?
Gearboxes on these things go for fun but you will either have a good un or a bad one, if you have a bad one it should fail before your warranty runs out :-)
Rear cam misted up so replaced a year ago, the new one is doing the same now. Renault are being slightly awkward on this one.
Aircon made a whining noise when turned on which was the compressor bearings, probably not greased at manufacture.
Oil leak was just a slight drip but it was under warranty so why not get it fixed.
Sensors seem to go on most modern vehicles but I am glad i didn't have to pay for the NOX B one, £350 or so.
If I was going to buy a new one i would get a Fiat Talento version as these come with a 5 year warranty rather than the 3 year for renaults & nissans now.
Every transit i have had as a works van has either had its spare wheel nicked or been broken into. Cup holders s
te on the Mk7 facelift where ste. Mk8's are nice inside as long as you get a higher spec but they seem noisey to me.
Renault Trafic/Vivaro/NV300 for me over the Ford or PSA stuff. T6's are vastly overpriced and underspecced so they are a no go as well.
It's comfy to drive, has all the toys i need except heated seats, big enough for me and my work, easy to park and does around 39mpg on average. Highest i saw was 48mpg on a slow run down to MK from Lancashire, the lowest was probably 33mpg on the way back from LM chasing the last train on sunday night. Mine has a tow bar and it happily tows our 27 foot caravan. All in all a great daily drive.
It's had the following done at my local renault dealer:
New rear shocker 8,000
New Gearbox 12,000
New rear shocker 18,000
Turbo Pressure sensor 22,000
New rear Shocker 30,000
New Rear Camera 30,000
Oil leak on cam cover 40,000
New Air con compressor 45,000
New Nox B sensor 54,000
Turbo Pressure sensor 54,000
As you can see not trouble free by any means but all done under warranty. The shocker replacements where all for the NSR one which would start to knock after a while, Renault had a issue with rear shocks on Kashcows so it may have been related to that but the last one has managed 25,000 miles now so maybe I got a good one?
Gearboxes on these things go for fun but you will either have a good un or a bad one, if you have a bad one it should fail before your warranty runs out :-)
Rear cam misted up so replaced a year ago, the new one is doing the same now. Renault are being slightly awkward on this one.
Aircon made a whining noise when turned on which was the compressor bearings, probably not greased at manufacture.
Oil leak was just a slight drip but it was under warranty so why not get it fixed.
Sensors seem to go on most modern vehicles but I am glad i didn't have to pay for the NOX B one, £350 or so.
If I was going to buy a new one i would get a Fiat Talento version as these come with a 5 year warranty rather than the 3 year for renaults & nissans now.
Every transit i have had as a works van has either had its spare wheel nicked or been broken into. Cup holders s
te on the Mk7 facelift where ste. Mk8's are nice inside as long as you get a higher spec but they seem noisey to me. Renault Trafic/Vivaro/NV300 for me over the Ford or PSA stuff. T6's are vastly overpriced and underspecced so they are a no go as well.
stubert_ said:
I have driven Vivaro Sportives (older model and current ones), Transits, T5 & 6, Sprinters, Crafters, Caddys, Partners and Dispatches as works vans for the last 8 years but when I came to buy one for myself I bought a Renault Trafic from a friend of my who bought it on my recomendation. (ready to go to Le Mans below) Its a 2016 SWB SportNav 125 which had done 15,000 in a year when i bought it. Its now done 56,000, gets its oil and filter changed every 8000 miles at the local Renault dealer.
It's comfy to drive, has all the toys i need except heated seats, big enough for me and my work, easy to park and does around 39mpg on average. Highest i saw was 48mpg on a slow run down to MK from Lancashire, the lowest was probably 33mpg on the way back from LM chasing the last train on sunday night. Mine has a tow bar and it happily tows our 27 foot caravan. All in all a great daily drive.
It's had the following done at my local renault dealer:
New rear shocker 8,000
New Gearbox 12,000
New rear shocker 18,000
Turbo Pressure sensor 22,000
New rear Shocker 30,000
New Rear Camera 30,000
Oil leak on cam cover 40,000
New Air con compressor 45,000
New Nox B sensor 54,000
Turbo Pressure sensor 54,000
As you can see not trouble free by any means but all done under warranty. The shocker replacements where all for the NSR one which would start to knock after a while, Renault had a issue with rear shocks on Kashcows so it may have been related to that but the last one has managed 25,000 miles now so maybe I got a good one?
Gearboxes on these things go for fun but you will either have a good un or a bad one, if you have a bad one it should fail before your warranty runs out :-)
Rear cam misted up so replaced a year ago, the new one is doing the same now. Renault are being slightly awkward on this one.
Aircon made a whining noise when turned on which was the compressor bearings, probably not greased at manufacture.
Oil leak was just a slight drip but it was under warranty so why not get it fixed.
Sensors seem to go on most modern vehicles but I am glad i didn't have to pay for the NOX B one, £350 or so.
If I was going to buy a new one i would get a Fiat Talento version as these come with a 5 year warranty rather than the 3 year for renaults & nissans now.
Every transit i have had as a works van has either had its spare wheel nicked or been broken into. Cup holders ste on the Mk7 facelift where ste. Mk8's are nice inside as long as you get a higher spec but they seem noisey to me.
Renault Trafic/Vivaro/NV300 for me over the Ford or PSA stuff. T6's are vastly overpriced and underspecced so they are a no go as well.
A Vivaro is PSA now?It's comfy to drive, has all the toys i need except heated seats, big enough for me and my work, easy to park and does around 39mpg on average. Highest i saw was 48mpg on a slow run down to MK from Lancashire, the lowest was probably 33mpg on the way back from LM chasing the last train on sunday night. Mine has a tow bar and it happily tows our 27 foot caravan. All in all a great daily drive.
It's had the following done at my local renault dealer:
New rear shocker 8,000
New Gearbox 12,000
New rear shocker 18,000
Turbo Pressure sensor 22,000
New rear Shocker 30,000
New Rear Camera 30,000
Oil leak on cam cover 40,000
New Air con compressor 45,000
New Nox B sensor 54,000
Turbo Pressure sensor 54,000
As you can see not trouble free by any means but all done under warranty. The shocker replacements where all for the NSR one which would start to knock after a while, Renault had a issue with rear shocks on Kashcows so it may have been related to that but the last one has managed 25,000 miles now so maybe I got a good one?
Gearboxes on these things go for fun but you will either have a good un or a bad one, if you have a bad one it should fail before your warranty runs out :-)
Rear cam misted up so replaced a year ago, the new one is doing the same now. Renault are being slightly awkward on this one.
Aircon made a whining noise when turned on which was the compressor bearings, probably not greased at manufacture.
Oil leak was just a slight drip but it was under warranty so why not get it fixed.
Sensors seem to go on most modern vehicles but I am glad i didn't have to pay for the NOX B one, £350 or so.
If I was going to buy a new one i would get a Fiat Talento version as these come with a 5 year warranty rather than the 3 year for renaults & nissans now.
Every transit i have had as a works van has either had its spare wheel nicked or been broken into. Cup holders s
te on the Mk7 facelift where ste. Mk8's are nice inside as long as you get a higher spec but they seem noisey to me. Renault Trafic/Vivaro/NV300 for me over the Ford or PSA stuff. T6's are vastly overpriced and underspecced so they are a no go as well.
stubert_ said:
I have driven Vivaro Sportives (older model and current ones), Transits, T5 & 6, Sprinters, Crafters, Caddys, Partners and Dispatches as works vans for the last 8 years but when I came to buy one for myself I bought a Renault Trafic from a friend of my who bought it on my recomendation. (ready to go to Le Mans below) Its a 2016 SWB SportNav 125 which had done 15,000 in a year when i bought it. Its now done 56,000, gets its oil and filter changed every 8000 miles at the local Renault dealer.
It's comfy to drive, has all the toys i need except heated seats, big enough for me and my work, easy to park and does around 39mpg on average. Highest i saw was 48mpg on a slow run down to MK from Lancashire, the lowest was probably 33mpg on the way back from LM chasing the last train on sunday night. Mine has a tow bar and it happily tows our 27 foot caravan. All in all a great daily drive.
It's had the following done at my local renault dealer:
New rear shocker 8,000
New Gearbox 12,000
New rear shocker 18,000
Turbo Pressure sensor 22,000
New rear Shocker 30,000
New Rear Camera 30,000
Oil leak on cam cover 40,000
New Air con compressor 45,000
New Nox B sensor 54,000
Turbo Pressure sensor 54,000
As you can see not trouble free by any means but all done under warranty. The shocker replacements where all for the NSR one which would start to knock after a while, Renault had a issue with rear shocks on Kashcows so it may have been related to that but the last one has managed 25,000 miles now so maybe I got a good one?
Gearboxes on these things go for fun but you will either have a good un or a bad one, if you have a bad one it should fail before your warranty runs out :-)
Rear cam misted up so replaced a year ago, the new one is doing the same now. Renault are being slightly awkward on this one.
Aircon made a whining noise when turned on which was the compressor bearings, probably not greased at manufacture.
Oil leak was just a slight drip but it was under warranty so why not get it fixed.
Sensors seem to go on most modern vehicles but I am glad i didn't have to pay for the NOX B one, £350 or so.
If I was going to buy a new one i would get a Fiat Talento version as these come with a 5 year warranty rather than the 3 year for renaults & nissans now.
Every transit i have had as a works van has either had its spare wheel nicked or been broken into. Cup holders ste on the Mk7 facelift where ste. Mk8's are nice inside as long as you get a higher spec but they seem noisey to me.
Renault Trafic/Vivaro/NV300 for me over the Ford or PSA stuff. T6's are vastly overpriced and underspecced so they are a no go as well.
How on earth can you recommend a Renault with that list of repairs. Your credibility is 0.It's comfy to drive, has all the toys i need except heated seats, big enough for me and my work, easy to park and does around 39mpg on average. Highest i saw was 48mpg on a slow run down to MK from Lancashire, the lowest was probably 33mpg on the way back from LM chasing the last train on sunday night. Mine has a tow bar and it happily tows our 27 foot caravan. All in all a great daily drive.
It's had the following done at my local renault dealer:
New rear shocker 8,000
New Gearbox 12,000
New rear shocker 18,000
Turbo Pressure sensor 22,000
New rear Shocker 30,000
New Rear Camera 30,000
Oil leak on cam cover 40,000
New Air con compressor 45,000
New Nox B sensor 54,000
Turbo Pressure sensor 54,000
As you can see not trouble free by any means but all done under warranty. The shocker replacements where all for the NSR one which would start to knock after a while, Renault had a issue with rear shocks on Kashcows so it may have been related to that but the last one has managed 25,000 miles now so maybe I got a good one?
Gearboxes on these things go for fun but you will either have a good un or a bad one, if you have a bad one it should fail before your warranty runs out :-)
Rear cam misted up so replaced a year ago, the new one is doing the same now. Renault are being slightly awkward on this one.
Aircon made a whining noise when turned on which was the compressor bearings, probably not greased at manufacture.
Oil leak was just a slight drip but it was under warranty so why not get it fixed.
Sensors seem to go on most modern vehicles but I am glad i didn't have to pay for the NOX B one, £350 or so.
If I was going to buy a new one i would get a Fiat Talento version as these come with a 5 year warranty rather than the 3 year for renaults & nissans now.
Every transit i have had as a works van has either had its spare wheel nicked or been broken into. Cup holders s
te on the Mk7 facelift where ste. Mk8's are nice inside as long as you get a higher spec but they seem noisey to me. Renault Trafic/Vivaro/NV300 for me over the Ford or PSA stuff. T6's are vastly overpriced and underspecced so they are a no go as well.
My 3 year old tranny custom is coming up to 105,000 miles. Repairs are one key blade which I snapped in the bonnet lock.
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