What happened to HGV drivers having manners?

What happened to HGV drivers having manners?

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LetsTryAgain

Original Poster:

2,904 posts

80 months

Sunday 15th November 2020
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I remember a time when if you flashed a truck to pull out, or moved into the next lane to make a space for him you’d get a thank you.
Whether it was a wave as you passed, or a flash when you pull back in, most acknowledged what you’d done.
Now, it’s almost none existent.

So if you drive a class 1, try and say thank you 🙏

normalbloke

7,713 posts

226 months

Sunday 15th November 2020
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Need a hug?

LetsTryAgain

Original Poster:

2,904 posts

80 months

Sunday 15th November 2020
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normalbloke said:
Need a hug?
Not at all.
Just don’t be surprised when folk like me don’t bother being courteous to you on the road any more.

Sheepshanks

35,033 posts

126 months

Sunday 15th November 2020
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I'd rather they concentrated on driving.

eldar

22,757 posts

203 months

Sunday 15th November 2020
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LetsTryAgain said:
Not at all.
Just don’t be surprised when folk like me don’t bother being courteous to you on the road any more.
You just met a lorry driver who thought like you.

mac96

4,432 posts

150 months

Sunday 15th November 2020
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It's not a lorry driver thing, roads are more crowded, traffic flow impeded by roadworks the end result of which is often not an improvement, etc etc, all of which makes driving more stressful and reduces courtesy to and from all types of driver.

FWIW, I drove from London to Chester last Friday, and I noticed more courteous behavior from all types of vehicles on the M40 than usual - I am sure it was the result of less traffic due to lockdown.



LetsTryAgain

Original Poster:

2,904 posts

80 months

Sunday 15th November 2020
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But I’ve given up on general populous driving with manners a decade or so ago.
Truck drivers were the last bastion.

Now as bad as everyone else.

normalbloke

7,713 posts

226 months

Sunday 15th November 2020
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LetsTryAgain said:
But I’ve given up on general populous driving with manners a decade or so ago.
Truck drivers were the last bastion.

Now as bad as everyone else.
I’m fairly new to the HGV world. Less than 2 years Class 1. I’ve got a fairly varied and interesting driving history and experience prior to the HGV thing. I try to be as courteous,polite,safe and by the book as I can be.I’m always trying to improve myself. I drive a twilight shift. Same route for 4 nights per week, I’m usually parked back at our yard at 01:30. The amount of night drivers who are a liability came as quite a shock. I think I was expecting more( professional driver, higher standard of recurrent training blah blah) But they’re just the same as any other group of road users. A small percentage are excellent, a small percentage are absolutely shocking, and most are just average.However the bad really stand out. Poor lane discipline, no planning for overtakes or concept of how much they have in reserve for a manoeuvre. Just a simple lack of 3rd party anticipation and poor observation to boot.

GC8

19,910 posts

197 months

Sunday 15th November 2020
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Lots of Eastern Europeans without our courtesy, compounded by lots of other drivers who think 'if they don't then I won't'.

The rot set in a decade ago.

Macneil

928 posts

87 months

Sunday 15th November 2020
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There can't be that many class 1 drivers around now OP, maybe that's why?

sassanach0

215 posts

239 months

Sunday 15th November 2020
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eldar said:
You just met a lorry driver who thought like you.
got it in one,when you're treated like st by the vast majority of car "drivers"you soon learn to give as good as you get.....

GC8

19,910 posts

197 months

Sunday 15th November 2020
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Also: no one has a 'Class1' licence, so stop saying it.

Halmyre

11,561 posts

146 months

Sunday 15th November 2020
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LetsTryAgain said:
I remember a time when if you flashed a truck to pull out, or moved into the next lane to make a space for him you’d get a thank you.
Whether it was a wave as you passed, or a flash when you pull back in, most acknowledged what you’d done.
Now, it’s almost none existent.

So if you drive a class 1, try and say thank you ??
Dry your eyes and move on.

normalbloke

7,713 posts

226 months

Monday 16th November 2020
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GC8 said:
Also: no one has a 'Class1' licence, so stop saying it.
Yes dear!

surveyor

18,140 posts

191 months

Tuesday 17th November 2020
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I tried being uncourteous to lorries for a day after someone pissed me off.

I found it stressful, and more likely to involve me in an accident.

I've gone back to courteous.

grumpy52

5,717 posts

173 months

Saturday 28th November 2020
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I came off the roads nearly 4 years ago due to health , while the standard of many car and van drivers had already dropped the average trucker was still pretty courteous and looked out for others on the road . All the trucking forums have lots of comments about the decline in standards of truck driving but still observe that the rest of Europe is far better than the UK and much more pleasant for truckers apart from the problem with illegal immigrants and stowaways , not just at the channel crossing points but all over Europe.

Glenn63

3,107 posts

91 months

Saturday 28th November 2020
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grumpy52 said:
I came off the roads nearly 4 years ago due to health , while the standard of many car and van drivers had already dropped the average trucker was still pretty courteous and looked out for others on the road . All the trucking forums have lots of comments about the decline in standards of truck driving but still observe that the rest of Europe is far better than the UK and much more pleasant for truckers apart from the problem with illegal immigrants and stowaways , not just at the channel crossing points but all over Europe.
Iv only been driving hgvs 7 years and it’s worse than it was, seems little camaraderie more recently, trucks don’t flash you back in after overtakes, you move over to let them join motorways easy and they match your speed and leave you stranded in lane 2, rushing about every were cutting you up last minute or using wrong lanes at roundabouts to skip ahead etc lots of knobheads around a present Iv gone onto to nights to avoid most of it and it’s much more relaxing and seems more truckers helping each other out at night.

LetsTryAgain

Original Poster:

2,904 posts

80 months

Saturday 28th November 2020
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Glenn63 said:
Iv only been driving hgvs 7 years and it’s worse than it was, seems little camaraderie more recently, trucks don’t flash you back in after overtakes, you move over to let them join motorways easy and they match your speed and leave you stranded in lane 2,
I don't move over for them anymore. As I've been hung out to dry so many times, I just won't put myself in to a position where it can happen.

normalbloke

7,713 posts

226 months

Saturday 28th November 2020
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LetsTryAgain said:
Glenn63 said:
Iv only been driving hgvs 7 years and it’s worse than it was, seems little camaraderie more recently, trucks don’t flash you back in after overtakes, you move over to let them join motorways easy and they match your speed and leave you stranded in lane 2,
I don't move over for them anymore. As I've been hung out to dry so many times, I just won't put myself in to a position where it can happen.
Militant joiner meets the militant already joined.

T5R+

1,225 posts

216 months

Saturday 28th November 2020
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Most definitely on the decrease.

Virtually every day I will get multiple acknowledgements/thank-you. So, not all have lost the art.

Do not nowadays expect courtesy but does not stop me from being courteous.