I won´t be applying for THIS one....
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....for 5 points and a bacon sammitch, anyone tell me why?
"The role will include driving and operating a Class 2 vehicle (volumetric concrete mixer) to deliver on site mixed concrete to our clients. Workloads vary from 2 - 6 deliveries per day as part of a two man team, including driving to customer sites (domestic and commercial), operating the mixer, and (where necessary) barrow the concrete with the client."
I´ve never seen them say that before. FFS where will it end, lay the effin stuff as well?
What´s that? Float finish, yessir!
"The role will include driving and operating a Class 2 vehicle (volumetric concrete mixer) to deliver on site mixed concrete to our clients. Workloads vary from 2 - 6 deliveries per day as part of a two man team, including driving to customer sites (domestic and commercial), operating the mixer, and (where necessary) barrow the concrete with the client."
I´ve never seen them say that before. FFS where will it end, lay the effin stuff as well?
What´s that? Float finish, yessir!
StevieSpain said:
....for 5 points and a bacon sammitch, anyone tell me why?
"The role will include driving and operating a Class 2 vehicle (volumetric concrete mixer) to deliver on site mixed concrete to our clients. Workloads vary from 2 - 6 deliveries per day as part of a two man team, including driving to customer sites (domestic and commercial), operating the mixer, and (where necessary) barrow the concrete with the client."
I´ve never seen them say that before. FFS where will it end, lay the effin stuff as well?
What´s that? Float finish, yessir!
What's wrong with that? "The role will include driving and operating a Class 2 vehicle (volumetric concrete mixer) to deliver on site mixed concrete to our clients. Workloads vary from 2 - 6 deliveries per day as part of a two man team, including driving to customer sites (domestic and commercial), operating the mixer, and (where necessary) barrow the concrete with the client."
I´ve never seen them say that before. FFS where will it end, lay the effin stuff as well?
What´s that? Float finish, yessir!
If it's part of the service that the company offers to customers, and it's part of the job description, then there's nothing inherently wrong with this.
If the company offered a float finish as well, then it would be reasonable for the job description to include this as well.
Hi mandat, nice to meet you 
And I´ll assume, because of the lack of smilies, that you are serious.
Nope, sorry, this is not a normal thing.
When I was working as a rigger for GEC they tried to bring in a scheme where, if a mechie fitter was waiting for a rigger to do a job, he could do a little "light rigging" himself.
To put it mildy there was effin hell on.
Fitter were up in arms because they were now being expected to do someone elses job as well as their own.
Riggers were up in arms because, if it went forward, then less riggers would be needed.
Elfan safety ...well, don´t get me started, they threatened to close the site down (Nuclear power station)
I mean, if the Nuclear Engineer dudes were busy could I do a "A little light nuclear engineering"? (I know, I know)
If I started humping barrowloads of concrete around for the client that means he can save money on a labourer, at MY expense.
What if he has NO labourers and you´re expected to do the full 6 metres?
Let me put it this way, one cubic metre weighs about 2 1/4 tonnes. Times 6?
Plus, do you know how many barrowloads are in a 6 metre drum?
Approx 150-180.
No, that´s a piss take, pure and simple.
Just got this reply after an enquiry to a national supplier or ready mix concrete...
Good morning,
No, we do not expect the driver to barrow concrete for customers at all. This is not his requirement and for health and safety we do not advise it. He is expected to drive and unload the product, that is all. It would be down to the customer to barrow.
Kind Regards,
And I´ll assume, because of the lack of smilies, that you are serious.Nope, sorry, this is not a normal thing.
When I was working as a rigger for GEC they tried to bring in a scheme where, if a mechie fitter was waiting for a rigger to do a job, he could do a little "light rigging" himself.
To put it mildy there was effin hell on.
Fitter were up in arms because they were now being expected to do someone elses job as well as their own.
Riggers were up in arms because, if it went forward, then less riggers would be needed.
Elfan safety ...well, don´t get me started, they threatened to close the site down (Nuclear power station)
I mean, if the Nuclear Engineer dudes were busy could I do a "A little light nuclear engineering"? (I know, I know)
If I started humping barrowloads of concrete around for the client that means he can save money on a labourer, at MY expense.
What if he has NO labourers and you´re expected to do the full 6 metres?
Let me put it this way, one cubic metre weighs about 2 1/4 tonnes. Times 6?
Plus, do you know how many barrowloads are in a 6 metre drum?
Approx 150-180.
No, that´s a piss take, pure and simple.
Just got this reply after an enquiry to a national supplier or ready mix concrete...
Good morning,
No, we do not expect the driver to barrow concrete for customers at all. This is not his requirement and for health and safety we do not advise it. He is expected to drive and unload the product, that is all. It would be down to the customer to barrow.
Kind Regards,
Edited by StevieSpain on Friday 15th June 10:25
I drove for Ready-Mix, in Townmead Rd. Fulham for about six months, when I was doing The Knowledge.
No one ever asked me to barrow any concrete anywhere, I’d pump it into holes in the ground, or into a hopper, into a container which was lifted up and over the building, or onto plastic sheeting.
Had anyone asked me to pour some in a barrow, and push it on to the site, I would have politely declined, pointing out that my job was getting it to the site, then operating the lever which pumped it from the drum, to wherever they wanted it, then finally, washing the drum out with clean water.
No one ever asked me to barrow any concrete anywhere, I’d pump it into holes in the ground, or into a hopper, into a container which was lifted up and over the building, or onto plastic sheeting.
Had anyone asked me to pour some in a barrow, and push it on to the site, I would have politely declined, pointing out that my job was getting it to the site, then operating the lever which pumped it from the drum, to wherever they wanted it, then finally, washing the drum out with clean water.
Asda just updated their driver policy recently for their home shopping guys. Whilst previously the drop off was at the drivers discretion it is now Asda policy that drivers offer to take shopping to the customers kitchen and help unpack it. Flats and whatnot included. The only exception being where the driver feels he is 'unsafe'.
All for the same wage was the folks sitting at a till and stacking shelves.
This reminded me a lot of that, just typical of what is expected of drivers nowadays.
All for the same wage was the folks sitting at a till and stacking shelves.
This reminded me a lot of that, just typical of what is expected of drivers nowadays.
If you´re talking about the concrete...no, just the driver, and looked like normal delivery.
I wish I could remember what job advert it was but I just f
ked it off at the the time.
I spent years driving a 6m truck for Trumix/Tilcon in the North West, so I´ve had a bit of experience.
It really stood out to me, that sentence. I thought "WHaaaat"??
Thin end of the wedge.
edit: Just thought I´s point out, this is a volumetric truck. So you´d have to prepare the mix onsite, then barrow it in? Talk about customer service
I wish I could remember what job advert it was but I just f
ked it off at the the time.I spent years driving a 6m truck for Trumix/Tilcon in the North West, so I´ve had a bit of experience.
It really stood out to me, that sentence. I thought "WHaaaat"??
Thin end of the wedge.
edit: Just thought I´s point out, this is a volumetric truck. So you´d have to prepare the mix onsite, then barrow it in? Talk about customer service
Edited by StevieSpain on Saturday 16th June 10:56
Mandat said:
Someone will hump concrete in a barrow, I suppose. And there will always be someone willing to do it for less money, too.
Yeah, demarcation is something we need more of
Mind you, since the unions got their asses kicked we´re on a sticky wicket with that st now.bks!
I had made a lovely post, quotes, replies, everything. Then me PC crashed
lost it all.
So, here´s the bare bones version
Frankie, you absolutelynaileditrightonthehead!
THAT´S how the job is done
Caelite. Yes, I know what you mean.
I´ve only been looking at Class 2 jobs for mebbe 3 weeks but that seems to be way things are going. Load your truck, check the load, drive to a big block of flats, find out the lift isn´t working, hump the bag/trolley/tray upstairs. I mean, wtf?
On the plus side, I have found a job, in Spain, exactly where I want to be and what I want to do. Mixer driver. I know the job inside out so no learning curve. I speaka da lingo. and I know the area well.
On the minus side, , I can´t apply for it until I get my Freeeeekin licence back, medical, CPC. = 4 weeks.
I am properly champing at the bit!
ks!I had made a lovely post, quotes, replies, everything. Then me PC crashed
lost it all.So, here´s the bare bones version
Frankie, you absolutelynaileditrightonthehead!
THAT´S how the job is done
Caelite. Yes, I know what you mean.
I´ve only been looking at Class 2 jobs for mebbe 3 weeks but that seems to be way things are going. Load your truck, check the load, drive to a big block of flats, find out the lift isn´t working, hump the bag/trolley/tray upstairs. I mean, wtf?
On the plus side, I have found a job, in Spain, exactly where I want to be and what I want to do. Mixer driver. I know the job inside out so no learning curve. I speaka da lingo. and I know the area well.
On the minus side, , I can´t apply for it until I get my Freeeeekin licence back, medical, CPC. = 4 weeks.
I am properly champing at the bit!
Yep, and you don´t need a Cat C to drive it either.
Not yet, anyway.
Mebbe in September they´ll be re-classified as LGV but not yet.
https://www.smmt.co.uk/2018/04/volumetric-mixers-t...
Not yet, anyway.
Mebbe in September they´ll be re-classified as LGV but not yet.
https://www.smmt.co.uk/2018/04/volumetric-mixers-t...
StevieSpain said:
Yep, and you don´t need a Cat C to drive it either.
Not yet, anyway.
Mebbe in September they´ll be re-classified as LGV but not yet.
https://www.smmt.co.uk/2018/04/volumetric-mixers-t...
With a 10 year derogation Not yet, anyway.
Mebbe in September they´ll be re-classified as LGV but not yet.
https://www.smmt.co.uk/2018/04/volumetric-mixers-t...
greatStevieSpain said:
I spent years driving a 6m truck for Trumix/Tilcon in the North West, so I´ve had a bit of experience.
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