Anyone got a new Euro 6 Daf ? It be slow
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I have been "given" a new 12 tonne this week and I already dislike it.
Slow just doesn't do it justice,maybe it'll loosen up a bit.
Some of the dash messages are annoying re driving economically.
"Braking lightly saves fuel".......well I would if the pedal wasn't an On/Off switch.
The most comical of all is "Well anticipated"....I kid you not,if I have coasted and save a nano litre of diesel.
So anyone else got a new Daf with the condescending dash messages ?
Slow just doesn't do it justice,maybe it'll loosen up a bit.
Some of the dash messages are annoying re driving economically.
"Braking lightly saves fuel".......well I would if the pedal wasn't an On/Off switch.
The most comical of all is "Well anticipated"....I kid you not,if I have coasted and save a nano litre of diesel.
So anyone else got a new Daf with the condescending dash messages ?
My Mercs "bluetec" spat dummy yesterday so I ended up in a cf today and looks like ill be in it tomorrow.
The driver percentage was on 48% when I got in it, when I got out it was on 31% im guessin my driving performance has not been up to Dafs anticipation lol
Did have a few messages off it thou.
The driver percentage was on 48% when I got in it, when I got out it was on 31% im guessin my driving performance has not been up to Dafs anticipation lol
Did have a few messages off it thou.
I should've named this thread....." Thread where I just moan about my new truck"
Today it was telling me to change up,to 6th,top,going up a hill,so I did,2 seconds later when all momentum has gone,engine chugging,tells me to change down,quelle surprise.....
Have I mentioned how slow it is yet ?....
Today it was telling me to change up,to 6th,top,going up a hill,so I did,2 seconds later when all momentum has gone,engine chugging,tells me to change down,quelle surprise.....
Have I mentioned how slow it is yet ?....
All the new Euro 6 trucks are pants from all the emissions strangling they have fitted. Our fleet is mainly Iveco and the new 18 tonners are absolutely horrible. They won't even pull up M62 J25-24 empty without dropping down to 50 and if there's any sign of a headwind it's mid 40s... empty. The previous gen ones we've got on 10 and 11 plates with the same size engine are flying machines. The Stralii aren't really any worse than the special gen ones as they still have the glacial acceleration and completely feel-less steering but the gear change seems to be slightly quicker.
The XF105s and FH500s on our fleet probably pull the best but the DAFs really need to be worked hard on the revs to keep them on the boil when pulling max weight. Luckily the gearboxes on these are fairly snappy so they're pretty decent to drive.
One thing we have noticed is the fuel consumption for both the diesel and adblue is significantly higher than their euro 5 brothers.
The XF105s and FH500s on our fleet probably pull the best but the DAFs really need to be worked hard on the revs to keep them on the boil when pulling max weight. Luckily the gearboxes on these are fairly snappy so they're pretty decent to drive.
One thing we have noticed is the fuel consumption for both the diesel and adblue is significantly higher than their euro 5 brothers.
tloads of Adblue.Commercial Motor seem to think the Euro 6 Mercs are much better on fuel than the Euro 5s, same with most of the others too, must be the nannying saving the fuel, rather than the overwhelming power.
Sounds like you need a 1980s F12 or 142, most of these would see about 85mph on out past us on the A75 on the mushroom run to London or when some were late for a boat on their way home ;-)
Sounds like you need a 1980s F12 or 142, most of these would see about 85mph on out past us on the A75 on the mushroom run to London or when some were late for a boat on their way home ;-)
where I spend 50% of my time.All that jazz said:
All the new Euro 6 trucks are pants from all the emissions strangling they have fitted. Our fleet is mainly Iveco and the new 18 tonners are absolutely horrible. They won't even pull up M62 J25-24 empty without dropping down to 50 and if there's any sign of a headwind it's mid 40s... empty. The previous gen ones we've got on 10 and 11 plates with the same size engine are flying machines. The Stralii aren't really any worse than the special gen ones as they still have the glacial acceleration and completely feel-less steering but the gear change seems to be slightly quicker.
The XF105s and FH500s on our fleet probably pull the best but the DAFs really need to be worked hard on the revs to keep them on the boil when pulling max weight. Luckily the gearboxes on these are fairly snappy so they're pretty decent to drive.
One thing we have noticed is the fuel consumption for both the diesel and adblue is significantly higher than their euro 5 brothers.
I bet it's because it's now seen that in the tradeoff of business (costs, wages, time) versus environment, the environment has officially been deemed to win the choice. Therefore the engine will prefer to favour emissions and if that means dropping to 40mph on the uphill then "that's fine".The XF105s and FH500s on our fleet probably pull the best but the DAFs really need to be worked hard on the revs to keep them on the boil when pulling max weight. Luckily the gearboxes on these are fairly snappy so they're pretty decent to drive.
One thing we have noticed is the fuel consumption for both the diesel and adblue is significantly higher than their euro 5 brothers.
..perhaps?
blueacid said:
I bet it's because it's now seen that in the tradeoff of business (costs, wages, time) versus environment, the environment has officially been deemed to win the choice. Therefore the engine will prefer to favour emissions and if that means dropping to 40mph on the uphill then "that's fine".
..perhaps?
I'd say that's about the size of it, yes. My old M-reg FH12 380 would easily out-perform anything Euro 6 with up to a 500hp engine pulling full weight. Sad signs of the times. I believe they call it progress though... ..perhaps?
Now I'm posting a partial retraction ,a back pedal.
I spent quite a lot of yesterday on the M25,surprisingly easy flowing much of the time and once
my shiny new truck had eventually got up to Vmax of 56 it was actually okay.
To the last poster,my company only does deliveries in the South East so high mileage is not going to happen.
58 reg truck that's just gone had only 265,000 KMs in 6.5 years.
Some days in London,I could do 50-100 KMs in 8-9 hours.
I spent quite a lot of yesterday on the M25,surprisingly easy flowing much of the time and once
my shiny new truck had eventually got up to Vmax of 56 it was actually okay.
To the last poster,my company only does deliveries in the South East so high mileage is not going to happen.
58 reg truck that's just gone had only 265,000 KMs in 6.5 years.
Some days in London,I could do 50-100 KMs in 8-9 hours.
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