weekly rest.

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cerby54

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462 posts

213 months

Saturday 6th September 2014
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My company are looking to change our shifts, can they bring in a shift pattern which to make it work would require drivers to reduce their weekly rest?

thanks.

Edited by cerby54 on Saturday 6th September 12:21

grumpy52

5,717 posts

173 months

Saturday 6th September 2014
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Not if it breaks the law.

cerby54

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462 posts

213 months

Saturday 6th September 2014
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Thanks for the reply.no not breaking the law but if drivers aren't keen on reducing weekly rest how could they make the shift pattern work?

I would say that trying to pressurise drivers to reduce rest is not on

R0G

4,998 posts

162 months

Saturday 6th September 2014
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bit difficult to claim that a reduced weekly rest does not give enough sleep etc - reduced daily rest = yes

Claiming a safety issue or a breach of contract is the only way a driver can get the upper hand on an employer who legally plans for such

cerby54

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462 posts

213 months

Saturday 6th September 2014
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R0G said:
bit difficult to claim that a reduced weekly rest does not give enough sleep etc - reduced daily rest = yes

Claiming a safety issue or a breach of contract is the only way a driver can get the upper hand on an employer who legally plans for such
not a sleep issue,if i work 5 nights i then want 2 nights off work life balance.

R0G

4,998 posts

162 months

Saturday 6th September 2014
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cerby54 said:
not a sleep issue,if i work 5 nights i then want 2 nights off work life balance.
no laws for work/life balance

cerby54

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462 posts

213 months

Saturday 6th September 2014
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So without reducing weekly rest how many hours weekly rest is a driver entitled to.my company tell us that work life balance is very important

johnny fotze

394 posts

132 months

Saturday 6th September 2014
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If everyone sticks together then you might have a chance as they are effectively changing the terms and conditions of your employment. However, the first four words of the above sentence should be enough to tell you that you've no chance.

cerby54

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213 months

Saturday 6th September 2014
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So are you saying then that a company can tell you to reduce your daily and weekly rest?

R0G

4,998 posts

162 months

Saturday 6th September 2014
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cerby54 said:
So are you saying then that a company can tell you to reduce your daily and weekly rest?
YES THEY CAN but its up to you and your contact as to whether you accept it or not

cerby54

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462 posts

213 months

Saturday 6th September 2014
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Ok thanks.as a side issue on days off one of the days would be classed as a available day if your not down to work they say that the 1st 4 hours of the shift you would need to be available,if you wasn't called in would the 4 hours available time need to be recorded

Edited by cerby54 on Saturday 6th September 19:33

s p a c e m a n

11,002 posts

155 months

Saturday 6th September 2014
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Surely your contract states what your required hours are, are they trying to change the terms of your contract or does this new shift pattern fit in those hours?

ymwoods

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184 months

Saturday 6th September 2014
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cerby54 said:
Ok thanks.as a side issue on days off one of the days would be classed as a available day if your not down to work they say that the 1st 4 hours of the shift you would need to be available,if you wasn't called in would the 4 hours available time need to be recorded

Edited by cerby54 on Saturday 6th September 19:33
Maybe as POA as a manual entry but in all honesty its not going to make a big enough difference unless your getting paid for those 4 hours.

cerby54

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462 posts

213 months

Saturday 6th September 2014
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Started job 5 years ago mon -fri nights basic hours 37,2 years ago we were given 30 days notice that they were changing our shift pattern to a 6 week rolling pattern no change to basic hours or any other terms and conditions. Then about 4 months ago they said they wanted to change again as it would give them more weekend cover as at the moment some of the lorrys are parked up over the weekend.talks with union try to find a suitable shift pattern,they are finding it hard to come up with a suitable shift pattern. Only grey area in our contacts are some overtime maybe required,definition of some overtime is?

Edited by cerby54 on Saturday 6th September 21:22


Edited by cerby54 on Saturday 6th September 21:26