Who's in the wrong ?...
Discussion
The Honda driver, obviously.
How he lacked the skill to position and move his car into the steady and reasonable gap between the two lorries is a mystery. If he didn't have the speed / power to make that gap he should have shed speed and slotted in behind. Still, it's not an uncommon scene.
The driving test still doesn't teach motorway driving, or therefore how to join a motorway. Maybe it should.
How he lacked the skill to position and move his car into the steady and reasonable gap between the two lorries is a mystery. If he didn't have the speed / power to make that gap he should have shed speed and slotted in behind. Still, it's not an uncommon scene.
The driving test still doesn't teach motorway driving, or therefore how to join a motorway. Maybe it should.
I love the way that people put themselves in that position because they don't want to drive over a white line, see a lot of people do it at the end of sliproads too. Ok so you wern't paying attention and found that you've run out of road, stopping at the end of the sliproad or crashing into the vehicle on the carriageway is not going to improve the situation 
In my (extensive) experience it is almost always the car driver who is at fault. Sadly in most cases they argue and blame the HGV driver and refuse to accept that they are a f
king liability who should catch the bus...
Of course it wouldnt have happened if he had been driving his car! Honestly, is that a serious question / attempt to shift the responsibility to the HGV driver?
king liability who should catch the bus...Of course it wouldnt have happened if he had been driving his car! Honestly, is that a serious question / attempt to shift the responsibility to the HGV driver?
surveyor said:
Can I pop my head up and ask would this have happened if the truck driver was driving his own car?
Yes the Honda was in the wrong, but even so the accident was predictable and preventable, assuming that the driver could actually see the car, which I suppose he may not have.
Doubtfull , most likely he would have seen the mong and been able to brake not having about 44 tons to slow, hopefully all these Pillocks who drift along unaware of other traffic and causeing accidents and danger for themselves and others will be caught on CCTV and rightly held accountable and not be able to blame innocent 3rd parties for their selfishness ...Yes the Honda was in the wrong, but even so the accident was predictable and preventable, assuming that the driver could actually see the car, which I suppose he may not have.
Edited by powerstroke on Thursday 19th December 21:49
Was the driver too close to the lorry in front ?
Did the civic driver pause then apply power to enter the lane because he panicked ?
Are we not supposed to merge from a sliproad into a live lane ?
Looking at the clip the driver took no avoiding action until the car was lodged in the bumper.
Not a truck driver but seen this a lot on the M25 and particularly the M1 usually with Willi Betz lorries.
Did the civic driver pause then apply power to enter the lane because he panicked ?
Are we not supposed to merge from a sliproad into a live lane ?
Looking at the clip the driver took no avoiding action until the car was lodged in the bumper.
Not a truck driver but seen this a lot on the M25 and particularly the M1 usually with Willi Betz lorries.
powerstroke said:
surveyor said:
Can I pop my head up and ask would this have happened if the truck driver was driving his own car?
Yes the Honda was in the wrong, but even so the accident was predictable and preventable, assuming that the driver could actually see the car, which I suppose he may not have.
Doubtfull , most likely he would have seen the mong and been able to brake not having about 44 tons to slow, hopefully all these Pillocks who drift along unaware of other traffic and causeing accidents and danger for themselves and others will be caught on CCTV and rightly held accountable and not be able to blame innocent 3rd parties for their selfishness ...Yes the Honda was in the wrong, but even so the accident was predictable and preventable, assuming that the driver could actually see the car, which I suppose he may not have.
Edited by powerstroke on Thursday 19th December 21:49
I was taught to drive defensively and if you see a collision building up, to avoid it. I have seen similar instances when I've been towing and people have been desperate to get in front to save 3 seconds, and have not made a very good job of it.
I'd hope the lorry driver did not think sod it, I'm in the right and I'm bigger than him, rather than dab the brakes and give him a good blast on the horn.
badboyburt said:
Was the driver too close to the lorry in front ?
Did the civic driver pause then apply power to enter the lane because he panicked ?
Are we not supposed to merge from a sliproad into a live lane ?
Looking at the clip the driver took no avoiding action until the car was lodged in the bumper.
Not a truck driver but seen this a lot on the M25 and particularly the M1 usually with Willi Betz lorries.
The lines on the road mean give way !!!Did the civic driver pause then apply power to enter the lane because he panicked ?
Are we not supposed to merge from a sliproad into a live lane ?
Looking at the clip the driver took no avoiding action until the car was lodged in the bumper.
Not a truck driver but seen this a lot on the M25 and particularly the M1 usually with Willi Betz lorries.
badboyburt said:
powerstroke said:
The lines on the road mean give way !!!
The lines at the end of the slip road are single whites not double whites ?These are give way road markings,
These are merging markings,
Indicating means I intend to not I'm going too get out of my way !!!
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