Lorry tests now to be done loaded.

Lorry tests now to be done loaded.

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cossy400

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3,260 posts

191 months

Tuesday 5th November 2013
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Just read online that from the 15th of this month lorry tests are to be done loaded.

Whats everyones thoughts??

Personally I think its a good idea.

agent006

12,058 posts

271 months

Tuesday 5th November 2013
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This was mooted for B+E (car+trailer) too. Seems a good idea in terms of new drivers not getting a hell of a shock first time they're out loaded. I can see it putting training prices up though as MPGs will drop and wear increases.

cossy400

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3,260 posts

191 months

Tuesday 5th November 2013
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chilistrucker

4,541 posts

158 months

Tuesday 5th November 2013
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Sounds like a good idea to me.
Wish it had been the same when I was learning. I passed in a little ford cargo, with a straight 6 box and tiny 30 ft flatbed trailer.
1st artic I drive in my own was an f plate m a n with the eaton twin splitter, pulling a 45ft curtain side trailer loaded with 26 pallets of newspapers.
That was a learning curve :0

cossy400

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3,260 posts

191 months

Tuesday 5th November 2013
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From what ive read its not fully loaded but it ll be a lot better with a load on more use of the gears etc

and like you say, you ll not have a newbie then passin and going out at 44t and thinking "oh fk" when they come to a hill. (up or down)

Funny really ive got my class one assessment this sat, as work are paying for me to do it, im now really looking forward to it.


R0G

4,998 posts

162 months

Wednesday 6th November 2013
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cossy400 said:
From what ive read its not fully loaded but it ll be a lot better with a load on more use of the gears etc
Only if taken with a manual gearbox but from next year the test can be taken in an auto and the driver be given manual if they have B (car) manual

truck71

2,328 posts

179 months

Wednesday 6th November 2013
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chilistrucker said:
Sounds like a good idea to me.
Wish it had been the same when I was learning. I passed in a little ford cargo, with a straight 6 box and tiny 30 ft flatbed trailer.
1st artic I drive in my own was an f plate m a n with the eaton twin splitter, pulling a 45ft curtain side trailer loaded with 26 pallets of newspapers.
That was a learning curve :0
Same here, MAN 16.321 on an A plate with a Fuller box I think. And appalling brakes by todays standards.

R0G

4,998 posts

162 months

Wednesday 6th November 2013
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chilistrucker said:
Sounds like a good idea to me.
Wish it had been the same when I was learning. I passed in a little ford cargo, with a straight 6 box and tiny 30 ft flatbed trailer.
1st artic I drive in my own was an f plate m a n with the eaton twin splitter, pulling a 45ft curtain side trailer loaded with 26 pallets of newspapers.
That was a learning curve :0
That shows the basic principals allowed a driver to go onto other types

I also passed in a straight 6 with flat trailer in 1988 but had no great issues with other types I came across because I opened my mouth and asked others for a quick run through

There is no reason that the learners of today cannot do the same

chilistrucker

4,541 posts

158 months

Wednesday 6th November 2013
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cossy400 said:
From what ive read its not fully loaded but it ll be a lot better with a load on more use of the gears etc

and like you say, you ll not have a newbie then passin and going out at 44t and thinking "oh fk" when they come to a hill. (up or down)

Funny really ive got my class one assessment this sat, as work are paying for me to do it, im now really looking forward to it.
Good luck mate smile

cossy400

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3,260 posts

191 months

Wednesday 6th November 2013
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chilistrucker said:
cossy400 said:
From what ive read its not fully loaded but it ll be a lot better with a load on more use of the gears etc

and like you say, you ll not have a newbie then passin and going out at 44t and thinking "oh fk" when they come to a hill. (up or down)

Funny really ive got my class one assessment this sat, as work are paying for me to do it, im now really looking forward to it.
Good luck mate smile
Cheers Chilli.

I know the truck anyway its the same bloke I did my class 2 with.

Wagon and drag.

Hooli

32,278 posts

207 months

Wednesday 6th November 2013
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R0G said:
cossy400 said:
From what ive read its not fully loaded but it ll be a lot better with a load on more use of the gears etc
Only if taken with a manual gearbox but from next year the test can be taken in an auto and the driver be given manual if they have B (car) manual
Will it be the same for PSV too?

Seems daft to me as my experience on coaches was gearboxes are somewhat more interesting to use than in cars especially on older stuff.

R0G

4,998 posts

162 months

Thursday 7th November 2013
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Hooli said:
Will it be the same for PSV too?
Yes

Those with D auto and B manual on their licences will get D manual when they renew their licence for any reason

Hooli

32,278 posts

207 months

Thursday 7th November 2013
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R0G said:
Hooli said:
Will it be the same for PSV too?
Yes

Those with D auto and B manual on their licences will get D manual when they renew their licence for any reason
Wait for the sudden glut of applications to coach companies then. For years buses have trained autos & people have had to convert to work for proper coach companies doing tours.

R0G

4,998 posts

162 months

Thursday 7th November 2013
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Hooli said:
Wait for the sudden glut of applications to coach companies then. For years buses have trained autos & people have had to convert to work for proper coach companies doing tours.
Or get LGV C manual

folos

900 posts

149 months

Sunday 10th November 2013
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Hooli said:
Wait for the sudden glut of applications to coach companies then. For years buses have trained autos & people have had to convert to work for proper coach companies doing tours.
There's having a manual license and then there's being able to drive manuals. Where I used to work there were a few drivers that even though they had stick licenses they weren't allowed out in one - as they'd come back with no clutch..

Humper

946 posts

169 months

Sunday 10th November 2013
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Hooli said:
Will it be the same for PSV too?.
That'll teach me to skim read, I was wondering how much the bus test would be if you had to have 50 odd folk on board.... banghead

Hooli

32,278 posts

207 months

Wednesday 13th November 2013
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R0G said:
Hooli said:
Wait for the sudden glut of applications to coach companies then. For years buses have trained autos & people have had to convert to work for proper coach companies doing tours.
Or get LGV C manual
That's rigid isn't it? I loose track of the classes I don't have.

vit4

3,507 posts

177 months

Thursday 14th November 2013
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R0G said:
Yes

Those with D auto and B manual on their licences will get D manual when they renew their licence for any reason
Interesting, I have D auto and B manual, need to send off my licence due to change of address, will it come back as D manual then?!

Seems a bit crazy seeing as I've never been near the driving seat of a coach...

R0G

4,998 posts

162 months

Thursday 14th November 2013
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vit4 said:
Interesting, I have D auto and B manual, need to send off my licence due to change of address, will it come back as D manual then?!
do it in 2014 and it should do

R0G

4,998 posts

162 months

Thursday 14th November 2013
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Hooli said:
That's rigid isn't it? I loose track of the classes I don't have.
Simple = forget all the old HGV classes because they are well gone

Its all LGV now - vehicles with no more than 9 seats in total
C1 = 3.5 to 7.5
C = anything over 3.5 - no upper limit
C1+E = C1 with a trailer and a max GTW of 12 tonnes (not the same as total MAM of 12 tonnes)
C+E = C with a trailer - no upper limit

Pre 1997 C1+E with 107 code = max total MAM limit of 8.250 (not the same as total GTW of 8.250 tonnes)