would you "grass up" your employer?
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Just a hypothetical situation...
Say your employer had downrated all his 44 tonne tractor units to 34 tonne to save a few quid on road tax. Then continued to take on jobs with higher weights thus making you anything up to 8/9 tonne overweight.
And that's say you'd taken up the matter with your employer and he replied with the usual bulls
t. And that's say that other drivers had turned on you and told you to just get on with it "because It's keeping us all in a job innit"
Would you have a chat with vosa about it?
Just speaking hypothetically of course...
Say your employer had downrated all his 44 tonne tractor units to 34 tonne to save a few quid on road tax. Then continued to take on jobs with higher weights thus making you anything up to 8/9 tonne overweight.
And that's say you'd taken up the matter with your employer and he replied with the usual bulls
t. And that's say that other drivers had turned on you and told you to just get on with it "because It's keeping us all in a job innit"Would you have a chat with vosa about it?
Just speaking hypothetically of course...
I don't know exactly what "downrated" means in this case, not being in that industry, but if it made the lorries more dangerous on the road then people's lives are at risk. In that case I couldn't live with keeping that to myself. Sometimes you've got to do what's right, not what's best.
cherad said:
I don't know exactly what "downrated" means in this case, not being in that industry, but if it made the lorries more dangerous on the road then people's lives are at risk. In that case I couldn't live with keeping that to myself. Sometimes you've got to do what's right, not what's best.
It doesn't mean this. Simply put, there are different tax bands depending on how heavy a load you are allowed to carry. If you are rated and 34t then that is the max load allowed to be pulled by that particular unit. If they wanted to take a heavier load (which may be worth more money) then they would need to upgrade their max weight rating.I think.
Jeeez don't post this on trucknet as they would pretty much like to see vosa shut down as they are not needed and all hauliers are whiter than white and need no outside overseeing body.
Regarding the quote above,, How would running over the declared taxation
Class just on tax affect handling. The vehicle construction and use etc will not have changed just thee plated weight?
Regarding the quote above,, How would running over the declared taxation
Class just on tax affect handling. The vehicle construction and use etc will not have changed just thee plated weight?
No need to contact VOSA in the experience we had at work late last year.
We use contractors for some work and whilst I was shunting,said contractors trailer was put under the canopy to be loaded.
Upon loading the forkies put some ballast at the back,then continued to load,as they do with our 44t rated trailers from the front down to the ballast.
Didn't take much strain for it to eventually snap,and it did snap good and proper.From the legs forward the trailer snapped and it's headboard was on the floor.
Turns out upon some further inspection that whilst the contractor said his trailers were rated for 44t work,they weren't.They were rated for 38t work and taking the strain of being loaded like this as a stand trailer,one of them snapped.Cost them a pretty penny,and not just replacing the trailer,tieing up the pad on a very busy site,wrecker etc etc...Almost cost them the contract.
They now use 44t rated trailers.
We use contractors for some work and whilst I was shunting,said contractors trailer was put under the canopy to be loaded.
Upon loading the forkies put some ballast at the back,then continued to load,as they do with our 44t rated trailers from the front down to the ballast.
Didn't take much strain for it to eventually snap,and it did snap good and proper.From the legs forward the trailer snapped and it's headboard was on the floor.
Turns out upon some further inspection that whilst the contractor said his trailers were rated for 44t work,they weren't.They were rated for 38t work and taking the strain of being loaded like this as a stand trailer,one of them snapped.Cost them a pretty penny,and not just replacing the trailer,tieing up the pad on a very busy site,wrecker etc etc...Almost cost them the contract.
They now use 44t rated trailers.
Panda76 said:
No need to contact VOSA in the experience we had at work late last year.
We use contractors for some work and whilst I was shunting,said contractors trailer was put under the canopy to be loaded.
Upon loading the forkies put some ballast at the back,then continued to load,as they do with our 44t rated trailers from the front down to the ballast.
Didn't take much strain for it to eventually snap,and it did snap good and proper.From the legs forward the trailer snapped and it's headboard was on the floor.
Turns out upon some further inspection that whilst the contractor said his trailers were rated for 44t work,they weren't.They were rated for 38t work and taking the strain of being loaded like this as a stand trailer,one of them snapped.Cost them a pretty penny,and not just replacing the trailer,tieing up the pad on a very busy site,wrecker etc etc...Almost cost them the contract.
They now use 44t rated trailers.
That's bad.We use contractors for some work and whilst I was shunting,said contractors trailer was put under the canopy to be loaded.
Upon loading the forkies put some ballast at the back,then continued to load,as they do with our 44t rated trailers from the front down to the ballast.
Didn't take much strain for it to eventually snap,and it did snap good and proper.From the legs forward the trailer snapped and it's headboard was on the floor.
Turns out upon some further inspection that whilst the contractor said his trailers were rated for 44t work,they weren't.They were rated for 38t work and taking the strain of being loaded like this as a stand trailer,one of them snapped.Cost them a pretty penny,and not just replacing the trailer,tieing up the pad on a very busy site,wrecker etc etc...Almost cost them the contract.
They now use 44t rated trailers.
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