Take that Trucker

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surveyor

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18,143 posts

191 months

Thursday 18th April 2013
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Now I'm the first to admit that this may not have been the best driving ever, but it felt soooo good.

Had been following an artic for 15 mins while he overtook 3 trucks. Became aware of the fact that we were not going anywhere and had a glance down the near side to see another artic in lane 1 a little ahead. 10 mins later exactly the same position.

Had a feeble headlight flash which as expected was duly ignored. Decided action was required and went down lane 1 to go back into lane 2. No cutting up required. Plenty of room.

I may have then slowed gently to 50 mph. Mr lorry came all shouty with headlights. Then he pulled back into lane 1 and the mile long jam started passed.

I do feel a little bad, but I did enjoy getting some revenge.

PS I know the arguments, but this guy had been overtaking (or not) for 25 mins. Enough is enough.


MJK 24

5,652 posts

243 months

Thursday 18th April 2013
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Overtaking someone to slow down in front of them is quite bizarre IMO but each to their own.

J4CKO

42,880 posts

207 months

Thursday 18th April 2013
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Can see the sentiments but antagonising someone driving a 20 odd tonne vehicle is best avoided.


It is weird how they are all limited to the same speed but decide to overtake, it can indeed take hours, overtaking relies on going faster than what you are passing, lorry drivers dont seem to get it and neither does a lot of the driving public, the phrase "st or get off the pot" springs to mind.

surveyor

Original Poster:

18,143 posts

191 months

Thursday 18th April 2013
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I did not slow down for long, just enough to cause him to loose momentum, and give up the overtake.

I was also very aware that he was bigger than me, and if he'd been threatening I'd have been off. Certainly did not pull an emergency stop.....

Targarama

14,661 posts

290 months

Thursday 18th April 2013
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The truck(s) being overtaken have something to answer for in these elephant racing cases too. They keep their 'foot in' and where the overtaking truck might be quicker on the uphill, they then catch back up on the flat/downhill etc.. If they lift off by 1mph for a few seconds it would enable the pass to be made much more safely. I know it must be frustrating to be limited and they need to keep to max speed if at all possible to get the most miles from their allotted time, but if they all did this it would help immensely. I'm only asking for 1mph for a few seconds.

blueg33

38,601 posts

231 months

Thursday 18th April 2013
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OP, I understand the temptation. After following a truck for 20 plus miles on the A14 where it was gradually creeping up to and passing another truck was bloody frustrating and IMO totally selfish of the truck driver.

Sump

5,484 posts

174 months

Thursday 18th April 2013
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Ban trucks from going out of Lane 1.

Works perfectly fine in other countries.


heebeegeetee

28,969 posts

255 months

Thursday 18th April 2013
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MJK 24 said:
Overtaking someone to slow down in front of them is quite bizarre IMO but each to their own.
It happens all the time when you drive a truck, whether you're overtaking (and not even on a dc) or not. The favourite is to overtake and immediately stop to turn right, when you drive a truck that happens to you a lot. I once saw a school mum who was actually braking and indicating to turn right as she sliced in front of an artic and stopped, to turn right into the road where the school is. The cab of that artic didn't have shudder a lot with that amount braking.

It happens all the time, it's perfectly normal daily life of driving a truck. Another thing that happens a lot is the amount of cars who speed up as you're passing, or just speed match. You can be passing a car only for him to speed up and bugger off, you return to L1 and 10 mins later you're repeating the process. My record is Birmingham to Liverpool with 1 car doing that throughout. I recall another car when I could see his faulty tail light many miles ahead at one point, and at another time I'd passed him with quite a speed difference, but nevertheless I must have passed him 10 times on that one journey. It's normal.

In the case of the OP, presumably the truck then repeats the process and overtakes the trucks he's already overtaken, and the people behind are delighted.

kambites

68,443 posts

228 months

Thursday 18th April 2013
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heebeegeetee said:
It happens all the time when you drive a truck, whether you're overtaking (and not even on a dc) or not. The favourite is to overtake and immediately stop to turn right, when you drive a truck that happens to you a lot.
Cyclists get the same thing. I suspect any "slow" road user does.

blueg33

38,601 posts

231 months

Thursday 18th April 2013
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On DC's too many truckers drive too close to each other making it very difficult to get to your exit without pulling in front of them and slowing to match their speed. A14, M4 near Newbury, M5 around J9 and M6 through staffordshire seem to be the worst places for this.

bikerPaul

1,693 posts

217 months

Thursday 18th April 2013
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Sump said:
Ban trucks from going out of Lane 1.

Works perfectly fine in other countries.
This
This
This
AND THIS!

kambites

68,443 posts

228 months

Thursday 18th April 2013
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Sump said:
Ban trucks from going out of Lane 1.

Works perfectly fine in other countries.
Out of interest, what other countries?

surveyor

Original Poster:

18,143 posts

191 months

Thursday 18th April 2013
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heebeegeetee said:
It happens all the time when you drive a truck, whether you're overtaking (and not even on a dc) or not. The favourite is to overtake and immediately stop to turn right, when you drive a truck that happens to you a lot. I once saw a school mum who was actually braking and indicating to turn right as she sliced in front of an artic and stopped, to turn right into the road where the school is. The cab of that artic didn't have shudder a lot with that amount braking.

It happens all the time, it's perfectly normal daily life of driving a truck. Another thing that happens a lot is the amount of cars who speed up as you're passing, or just speed match. You can be passing a car only for him to speed up and bugger off, you return to L1 and 10 mins later you're repeating the process. My record is Birmingham to Liverpool with 1 car doing that throughout. I recall another car when I could see his faulty tail light many miles ahead at one point, and at another time I'd passed him with quite a speed difference, but nevertheless I must have passed him 10 times on that one journey. It's normal.

In the case of the OP, presumably the truck then repeats the process and overtakes the trucks he's already overtaken, and the people behind are delighted.
Ten minutes later he was still behind the same lorry.

anonymous-user

61 months

Thursday 18th April 2013
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kambites said:
Out of interest, what other countries?
UK, France, Germany, Netherlands, Denmark have all got either full-time schemes, or have had trials. In the UK, it was trialled on the A14, but was ignored by pretty much all the continentals.

http://www.europarl.europa.eu/committees/en/tran/s...

Relevant...! smile

LoonR1

26,988 posts

184 months

Thursday 18th April 2013
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Sump said:
Ban trucks from going out of Lane 1.

Works perfectly fine in other countries.
That's great if you're never going to leave the DC or motorway. When you do you'll find 100 miles of lorries nose to tail with no gap big enough to get into.


Edited by LoonR1 on Thursday 18th April 13:38

surveyor

Original Poster:

18,143 posts

191 months

Thursday 18th April 2013
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LoonR1 said:
Sump said:
Ban trucks from going out of Lane 1.

Works perfectly fine in other countries.
That's great if you're never going to leave the DC or motorway. When you sorry you'll find 100 miles of lorries nose to tail with no gap big enough to get into.
Like they do on the continent?

LoonR1

26,988 posts

184 months

Thursday 18th April 2013
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No idea what they do on the continent I was raising an issue if you don't believe it will happen the good luck. It's bad enough in roadworks limited to 50 where you see many cars struggling to get over causing huge phantom jams from braking to slow down and pull in behind. I'm sure I'll now get flamed for being a crap driver but I'm considering the general population rather than my unbelievable ability.

George7

1,130 posts

157 months

Thursday 18th April 2013
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This has been mentioned a few times before, but a 'turbo boost' type button should be installed in lorries, so if they want to overtake, they can boost their max speed to say, 60mph for a short amount of time to allow them to overtake quickly without causing huge tailbacks.

blueg33

38,601 posts

231 months

Thursday 18th April 2013
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George7 said:
This has been mentioned a few times before, but a 'turbo boost' type button should be installed in lorries, so if they want to overtake, they can boost their max speed to say, 60mph for a short amount of time to allow them to overtake quickly without causing huge tailbacks.
I can see a few flaws in that, especially with the odd trucker that is a bit of a t**t (we have all come across them)

Imagine on a 60mph single carraigeway, you pull out to pass the artic, when you are half way along the trucker (because his breakfast only hd 4 rasher of bacon and his tea onl;y 5 sugars) decides to have some fun and presses his button, extending your time in the danger zone, forcing you to either speed up above the limit or pull back into the gap behind etc.

Simple solution is that truck drivers should be more considerate and should be limited to lane 1 only unless passing a very slow moving vehicle/wide load.

Edited by blueg33 on Thursday 18th April 14:18

SonicShadow

2,452 posts

161 months

Thursday 18th April 2013
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LoonR1 said:
That's great if you're never going to leave the DC or motorway. When you do you'll find 100 miles of lorries nose to tail with no gap big enough to get into.


Edited by LoonR1 on Thursday 18th April 13:38
There would be plenty of room if they left a 2 second gap.