Magnet on the gearbox - myth or not?

Magnet on the gearbox - myth or not?

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s2sol

Original Poster:

1,243 posts

177 months

Wednesday 5th September 2012
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I'm in Calais, waiting for a ferry. The guy 2 lanes over from me got out of his cab, reached between the chassis rails at the back of the cab, and retrieved a small object - I couldn't see what it was. He then put it in the door pocket, and walked away.

Could it have been a magnet, or is there a simple, less dramatic explanation?

mercfunder

8,535 posts

179 months

Wednesday 5th September 2012
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Is he Irish?

s2sol

Original Poster:

1,243 posts

177 months

Wednesday 5th September 2012
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No. Wearing flip flops.

mercfunder

8,535 posts

179 months

Wednesday 5th September 2012
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Stereotyping here, but probably eastern European, so most likely not a magnet, tales of them usually involve our celtic cousins.

s2sol

Original Poster:

1,243 posts

177 months

Wednesday 5th September 2012
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Stereotyping correctly. Now, why are we all sitting here instead of getting on the 15:20 boat?

HustleRussell

25,143 posts

166 months

Wednesday 5th September 2012
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The gearbox isn't at the back.

s2sol

Original Poster:

1,243 posts

177 months

Wednesday 5th September 2012
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At the back of the cab. A long way ahead of the fifth wheel.

spike50

121 posts

160 months

Wednesday 5th September 2012
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yes they do work , dont get caught with one, put in the right place it will do wonders for your bonus !

Turn7

24,069 posts

227 months

Wednesday 5th September 2012
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spike50 said:
yes they do work , dont get caught with one, put in the right place it will do wonders for your bonus !
Explain please.

Cyberprog

2,223 posts

189 months

Wednesday 5th September 2012
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Turn7 said:
Explain please.
The sensor on the gearbox detects the change in the magnetic field as part of the gear mechanism passes by it. Putting a magnet near it can over-ride this, so it thinks you're stationary, or similar, and therefore the tacho/limiter doesn't operate.

Turn7

24,069 posts

227 months

Wednesday 5th September 2012
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Cyberprog said:
The sensor on the gearbox detects the change in the magnetic field as part of the gear mechanism passes by it. Putting a magnet near it can over-ride this, so it thinks you're stationary, or similar, and therefore the tacho/limiter doesn't operate.
Ta !

s2sol

Original Poster:

1,243 posts

177 months

Wednesday 5th September 2012
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That's it. It's a Hall Effect sensor, like most current speedo drives. I'd heard stories of drivers placing magnets near the speedo drive to disrupt the signal to the tachograph head.

It means (as long as you're not caught) that you can go faster than you should, or not be subject to drivers hours regulations. Thus, you could drive for far more hours in a day than you're supposed to, and gain a competitive advantage.

jhfozzy

1,345 posts

196 months

Wednesday 5th September 2012
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Works exactly as other posters have said by interrupting the magnetic field of the sensor.

The new Tachograph standard to be fitted to all new trucks first registered from October 2012 will (should) eliminate this as they require two speed signals e.g. gearbox speed sensor and ABS. The Tachograph will compare the two signals and make sure they are within a tolerance. If not, it will flag a fault code.

For M1N1 vehicles like pickups where we already use the ABS signal as the main speed input, we will be fitting GPS secondary speed pick-ups.

powerstroke

10,283 posts

166 months

Thursday 6th September 2012
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Cyberprog said:
The sensor on the gearbox detects the change in the magnetic field as part of the gear mechanism passes by it. Putting a magnet near it can over-ride this, so it thinks you're stationary, or similar, and therefore the tacho/limiter doesn't operate.
Yes ......But if you get caught they (VOSA/ police ) will reem a part of your lower region
whistle

Druid

1,312 posts

187 months

Thursday 6th September 2012
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powerstroke said:
Yes ......But if you get caught they (VOSA/ police ) will reem a part of your lower region
whistle
Or you're involved in an accident and the magnet is found whistle

jhfozzy

1,345 posts

196 months

47p2

1,559 posts

167 months

Friday 7th September 2012
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Falsifying drivers records has been going on since they were introduced, in fact falsifying logbooks and tachographs were all part of the norm when I worked in the industry and if you weren't prepared to do a bit of hooliting and run bent you were out of a job...

I remember hearing stories of how a certain Carlisle company who shall remain nameless boasted his drivers were all legal and never fiddled tachos, until one was stopped for a spot check and when they went back to the operators offices multiple discrepancies were found on over half the drivers tachos.

TheLordJohn

5,746 posts

152 months

Friday 7th September 2012
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Stobarts? Lol.

martin mrt

3,828 posts

207 months

Friday 7th September 2012
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Every transport company is at it one way or another, I refuse to believe that there is a transport company that run 100% legally with regards to tachographs

Whether its tipping off cards, pulling them early or magnets, they all do something outside the law, and those that claim they don't are liars

4key

10,964 posts

154 months

Tuesday 18th September 2012
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Talking of which and seeing that quite a few people have posted on this one, i was just passed at maidstone services on the m20 by an old shape silver actros 4 wheeler. The copper sitting in the passenger seat with a camera looked rather dissapointed that i was just picking my nose and not on the phone hehe