When would you pull over if at all?

When would you pull over if at all?

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R0G

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4,995 posts

161 months

Thursday 17th May 2012
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http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...

Doing the legal 40 on a NSL SC and a queue builds up behind ..... at what point, if at all, would you pull over and let the traffic pass?

cossy400

3,252 posts

190 months

Thursday 17th May 2012
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Never, if someone wants to endanger life by reckless over taking because we are bound by the law to drive at that speed, then on there head be it.

We have all got somewhere to get to. leave a little earlier and expect delays.

Step daughter had an appointment in brum for 11am, tt nav told her it would 1hr 15mins from door to door to get there so she left at........................... yep fking 940am expecting to roll up bang on time.

It was nearer 12 when she got there and she got a royal bking by her boss, which again was for a stupidity cuz he asked her what time she left so she told him. banghead

Panda76

2,581 posts

156 months

Thursday 17th May 2012
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If and when I could,but only when a que is building up and I,m going mega slow.If I,m going a steady 40 mph then the following traffic should take any opportunity it can to make legal safe overtakes.

The road to basingstoke from Newbury is one you should consider moving over on to allow people to pass if you are fully loaded.
The chain of roundabouts and other such road furniture can really slow you down.
You can get a trot on in other places,but if I have build up behind me at these roundabouts I will pull into one of the bus stops and wave people past.
It would piss me off being stuck behind a truck on that road going mega slow and not moving over to let people go.
Although it's not a legal requirement it's common courtesy,something which is lost on some people these days.

Luckily the only single track A road I get anywhere near to these days is the A446 belfry road and it takes 10 minutes to get from A38 to M42 with a handy overtaking lane for faster traffic on one of the hills.

I do work nights so it is easier for me to move over and slot back in,which is probably why I have a little more patience.
Maybe if I worked days and if I knew that if I moved over I would have not much chance of slotting back in after allowing traffic to pass then maybe I wouldn't bother letting them go.

This has been done in SP@L before and I know a lot of HGV drivers disagreed with me then,so no doubt they will now lol..




4keymonsta

10,964 posts

154 months

Thursday 17th May 2012
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I wouldnt have pulled in for that short amount of time. 8 minutes? Thats nothing in the grand scheme of things.

Wozy68

5,415 posts

176 months

Thursday 17th May 2012
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4keymonsta said:
I wouldnt have pulled in for that short amount of time. 8 minutes? Thats nothing in the grand scheme of things.
The blonker who worked that out probs works in one of the posh banks we just bailed out. The distance was actually 20 miles after I googled it, but he decided the original 17 miles I'd estimated at the time of the OP was exagerated and that it took only 8 minutes to travel that distance.

I think he mean't the time saving if it could have been done at 60 not 40MPH. Problem was, he was totlly missing the point of the thread.

BonzoG

1,554 posts

220 months

Thursday 17th May 2012
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When I'm out at silly hour and making good progress in the van, truckers always seem to either duck in quickly or make it easy for me to pass without pulling in. It's much appreciated and with low volumes of traffic, costs almost nothing.

In the middle of the day, I rarely see them pulling in but I don't blame them. Chances are you'll wait ages to be let back out, then end up stuck behind Doris doing 35mph (with the entire queue between you and her of course.)

Guess it depends on whether or not there's much point!

iva cosworth

44,044 posts

169 months

Thursday 17th May 2012
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I NEARLY pulled over for a luton van that was clearly trying to make progress whilst

i was doing 40 mph through wotsit ???? forest in East Sussex yesterday.

But changed my mind as 1.It was a 40 limit for EVERYBODY and 2. He was tailgating me

so thought ,sod him.

He overtook anyway and shot off.

Answer to OP.I don't.biggrin

BonzoG

1,554 posts

220 months

Thursday 17th May 2012
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iva cosworth said:
But changed my mind as 1.It was a 40 limit for EVERYBODY
Hardly the same situation, is it?

Getragdogleg

9,035 posts

189 months

Saturday 19th May 2012
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I run with the theory that if we stick to the 40mph limit like good boys the rest of the public driving cars will get pissed off with it and hopefully demand "something is done" and we might get a rise to 50mph to keep the car lot happy.

I always take time to explain that I am doing the maximum allowed by law, lots of car folk have no idea about this law.

chilistrucker

4,541 posts

157 months

Monday 21st May 2012
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agree with the 50 mph bit, with the advances in truck safety, braking etc, there are a good few stretches of single carriageways that i think it would be ok if the truck limit was raised.
as for the o.p, depends on the situation at that time, but i will if i have a big queue behind me, consider diving in a layby after "x" amount of time to let them all pass. also on a wider stretch of road, if poss, i'll move as far over to the left as i safely can to give the traffic behind a better view of the road ahead. i won't give a flash of the indicator anymore, its up to the traffic behind to make their own judgement on when to pass.

Humper

946 posts

168 months

Monday 21st May 2012
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I spend prob 65% of my time on single carraigeway(and single track) roads, if i sat at 40 all day i'd never get done and would prob have an accident as i'd fell asleep at the wheel. Times when the pork are out for bonus though,and i'm sticking to 40 and it's up to the car behind to pass me, not me to let it pass. 40 is a silly speed to limit wagons to, when i started my old ERF would be lucky to attain 40 ever, and with vacuum brakes 40 was waaaaay quick enough.... Nowadays, nearly 50 years of technology have passed, but 40 is still the limit? There are roads where 40 is fast enough(and sometimes too fast) but as a professional driver i am able to make that judgement call. But as successive governments have given credence to all the bleating speed kills muppets we'll be lucky to keep 40........... frown

R0G

Original Poster:

4,995 posts

161 months

Monday 21st May 2012
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Humper said:
if i sat at 40 all day i'd never get done and would prob have an accident as i'd fell asleep at the wheel.
I have never understood the logic behind that

Humper

946 posts

168 months

Sunday 27th May 2012
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R0G said:
I have never understood the logic behind that
Why's that? Sitting at 40 used to be "interesting" when i drove a '63 ERF(if it ever actually got there) but nowadays we still have the same speed limits as when the ERF was built, lorries have moved on, i now have luxuries like an auto box, power steering, aircon, 40mph is boring, no need to be alert for pork, you're not speeding, attention wanders, sleepy driver....
When the M77 was getting built there were cameras all over it, 40 was enforced rigorously, i found myself bored, not half as attentive as i should've been(i had no idea what was behind/beside me) and generally my driving was less than it should be.

R0G

Original Poster:

4,995 posts

161 months

Sunday 27th May 2012
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Humper said:
Why's that? Sitting at 40 used to be "interesting" when i drove a '63 ERF(if it ever actually got there) but nowadays we still have the same speed limits as when the ERF was built, lorries have moved on, i now have luxuries like an auto box, power steering, aircon, 40mph is boring, no need to be alert for pork, you're not speeding, attention wanders, sleepy driver....
When the M77 was getting built there were cameras all over it, 40 was enforced rigorously, i found myself bored, not half as attentive as i should've been(i had no idea what was behind/beside me) and generally my driving was less than it should be.
Must be an odd individual thing because I've never had that problem and nor have any of the drivers I have worked with over the last 30+ years

spike50

121 posts

160 months

Sunday 27th May 2012
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R0G said:
Must be an odd individual thing because I've never had that problem and nor have any of the drivers I have worked with over the last 30+ years
either you have worked with odd people or they lie , 40 to me on most single track is very very boring and as stated prob i am not at my best , and in the 30 years i have been driving as aleady said the trucks have moved on a tad , i remeber telling the erf rep he had the safest lorry on the road at the time due to it being the most uncomfortable draughty thing in draughtsville , no one could ever fall a sleep in it

R0G

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4,995 posts

161 months

Sunday 27th May 2012
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spike50 said:
R0G said:
Must be an odd individual thing because I've never had that problem and nor have any of the drivers I have worked with over the last 30+ years
either you have worked with odd people or they lie
Neither - normal truck drivers - some O/Ds but most on hourly rates

I believe this is a mindset that some drivers get themselves into

Humper

946 posts

168 months

Sunday 27th May 2012
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R0G said:
I have never understood the logic behind that



Must be an odd individual thing because I've never had that problem and nor have any of the drivers I have worked with over the last 30+ years
Surely your first statement belies the fact you must have come across it......?

R0G

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4,995 posts

161 months

Monday 28th May 2012
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Humper said:
Surely your first statement belies the fact you must have come across it......?
Only come across it on other truck forums where one or two have said the same

anonymous-user

60 months

Monday 28th May 2012
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cossy400 said:
Never, if someone wants to endanger life by reckless over taking because we are bound by the law to drive at that speed, then on there head be it.
Where did anyone say anything about wrecklessness? Overtaking is neither dangerous nor illegal done properly, even less so when dawdling trucks give drivers a break.

cossy400 said:
We have all got somewhere to get to. leave a little earlier and expect delays.

Leave earlier yourself then, and expect to pull over now and then.

R0G

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161 months

Monday 28th May 2012
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Crossflow Kid said:
Leave earlier yourself then, and expect to pull over now and then.
ERR.... which group of drivers are restricted by the hours they can drive or work - cars or lorries??