Code reader (and writer?)
Code reader (and writer?)
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Billy_Rosewood

Original Poster:

3,489 posts

192 months

Friday 5th June
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Sorry, I know this topic pops up now and again but some of the ones I found didn't answer everything.

Looking for-
-ideally not more than £150
-can read multi manufacturer specific codes (ideally bmw and Mercedes)
-be able to reset service indicators
-ideally can do other diagnostic stuff like purge abs pumps, air suspension diagnostic/tests etc

Any reccomendations? Chatgpt reckons Topdon or launch something or another

MDT

827 posts

200 months

Friday 5th June
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After a long time looking at these with the same criteria as you, I was getting quite frustrated not being able to find something that matched your / my requirement.

The other big issue you should consider is if there is any annual subscription, these to me took the shine off some.

icarsoft make manufacture specific readers which will provide proper bi-directional control and the ability to work with all the ECU's ABS, Air Bags and code in new parts and force DPF regen etc

like this
https://www.amazon.co.uk/iCarsoft-Bidirectional-Di...

But this will only do BMW's. you can go the next level up and select 10 manufactures which you can work with. Think they are about £270. I was going to go this route then I worked out my cars plus friends and family 10 would not cover them. so went for the one which will do all manufactures... The CR Max. it's been great and no subscription and free updates.

Belle427

11,796 posts

261 months

Friday 5th June
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I have an icarsoft cr pro and its a good bit of kit, cant say I have looked if it has bi directional control though.
Topdon are worth a look too but you may struggle with that budget.

Tymb

235 posts

123 months

Friday 5th June
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I've had an OBDeleven dongle for a few years and use the app on my phone. It's worked fine and given me much more info than my basic scanner. I've only used the basic level which is free but you can buy one off credits to do more advanced stuff depending on the make and model.

LordLoveLength

2,334 posts

158 months

Friday 5th June
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Topdon artidiag EU - should be able to get one within budget.
Does all VAG stuff, BMW/Mini and Mercedes with full bi directional control and lifetime upgrades.

Decent bit of kit which seems well supported.

Billy_Rosewood

Original Poster:

3,489 posts

192 months

Friday 5th June
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MDT said:
After a long time looking at these with the same criteria as you, I was getting quite frustrated not being able to find something that matched your / my requirement.

The other big issue you should consider is if there is any annual subscription, these to me took the shine off some.

icarsoft make manufacture specific readers which will provide proper bi-directional control and the ability to work with all the ECU's ABS, Air Bags and code in new parts and force DPF regen etc

like this
https://www.amazon.co.uk/iCarsoft-Bidirectional-Di...

But this will only do BMW's. you can go the next level up and select 10 manufactures which you can work with. Think they are about £270. I was going to go this route then I worked out my cars plus friends and family 10 would not cover them. so went for the one which will do all manufactures... The CR Max. it's been great and no subscription and free updates.
What's the difference between something like the icarsoft and this topdon? It seems like a bit of a maze

The topdon ad500 seems a good price on amazon

https://amzn.eu/d/0ckMbRRL

But I always feel like I'm missing something in the details?

Will something like this talk to all the ecus in the car? I'm guessing that'll be quite limited.

I don't mind being limited to 10 manufacturers tbh, I'll have a search around for that model?

LordLoveLength

2,334 posts

158 months

Friday 5th June
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The AD 500 will only talk to limited modules resets for steering angle, battery management, parking brake, engine, transmission across all makes and models. It won’t do bidirectional control- you can’t for example open a window or activate a purge valve.

An icarsoft will do everything but only on a single make (unless you get the 10 make or pro version)
Topdon artidiag EU does everything but only on VAG, BMW and Merc. Both have free updates.

Bidirectional control on all makes in a single tool is >£350 and won’t have free updates.
There are phone based tools that offer everything for less but are usually limited with cost options for extra functionality and a subscription.

MDT

827 posts

200 months

Saturday 6th June
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Billy_Rosewood said:
What's the difference between something like the icarsoft and this topdon? It seems like a bit of a maze

The topdon ad500 seems a good price on amazon

https://amzn.eu/d/0ckMbRRL

But I always feel like I'm missing something in the details?

Will something like this talk to all the ecus in the car? I'm guessing that'll be quite limited.

I don't mind being limited to 10 manufacturers tbh, I'll have a search around for that model?
I would suggest you should have a good think about what you actually want and or need from this tool. If you are needing / want to have the ability to scan all the ECU's (30+ in some of my cars) then you will need to dig a bit deeper.

I would recommend you should take some time and watch a few vids on youtube and see what you are getting into.

These guys are fairly good at demonstrating the tools and their limitations.

https://www.youtube.com/@scantoolnetwork4812/video...



Billy_Rosewood

Original Poster:

3,489 posts

192 months

Saturday 6th June
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Thanks guy, very helpful replies.

Basically, I guess I'm the kinda person that want they little bit more to the point it becomes all or nothing laugh

I'll have a watch of that video and dive in a little deeper!

tight fart

3,556 posts

301 months

Sunday 7th June
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I’m in the same position looking for a reader, budget topping around £150.
The Topdon ad600s looks good at £150 but there’s a pro version that still gets free lifetime updates at £179. Has anyone here had any experience with them?

LordLoveLength

2,334 posts

158 months

Sunday 7th June
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Take a look at a kingbolen s6 elite - just above your price range but very capable, bidirectional and free lifetime upgrades, covers all makes

Billy_Rosewood

Original Poster:

3,489 posts

192 months

Sunday 7th June
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This?

https://amzn.eu/d/0369cqC8

Looks like it does everything?

LordLoveLength

2,334 posts

158 months

Sunday 7th June
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Billy_Rosewood said:
This?

https://amzn.eu/d/0369cqC8

Looks like it does everything?
Yes.

Billy_Rosewood

Original Poster:

3,489 posts

192 months

Sunday 7th June
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Nice one, I've just ordered one. Will give it a whirl when it arrives tomorrow.

If there's a way to test the airmatic system in a mercedes that'll be a bonus.

Billy_Rosewood

Original Poster:

3,489 posts

192 months

Monday 8th June
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Arrived this morning.

Seems to find a whole bunch of ECUs. Was able to read some internal Mercedes codes as well as read values for the air suspension etc. Pretty much what I wanted. Also let me toggle the compressor on/off as well as a few other functions which I didn't try.

Not massively intuitive, but seems decent so far!

Will try it on the BMW later this afternoon.

E-bmw

13,240 posts

180 months

Monday 8th June
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First job, if you haven't done it already link it to your wifi & do an update if it allows them, it will release more brands/models/functions, it certainly did with my Foxwell.

Billy_Rosewood

Original Poster:

3,489 posts

192 months

Monday 8th June
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Will give it a try.. I did connect it to the wifi but didn't run an update as my cars aren't newer than 2020!

Doesn't give individual cell voltages for the bmws hybrid battery, but gives the highest and lowest cell figures which is good enough for the price! State of charge is available but not state of health which would have been good.

Pretty decent so far though!