Stupidly ruined a manifold - fixable?

Stupidly ruined a manifold - fixable?

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eltax91

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10,049 posts

213 months

Sunday 3rd November
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Hello all

I am restoring a Range Rover classic with the 4.2 v8. I blasted and painted the manifolds and then decided it might be a good idea to remove the studs and replace them. 2 came out no problem but a 3rd snapped flush.

I flipped it over and drilled out from the back. The stud is an m8. Without realising I wandered off centre, thought ‘no problem it’s very hard metal, I’ll drill and tap a new m8 thread, it’s forgiving enough to be a mm or two off’

Then for some stupid unknown reason I went up 0.5mm drills at a time and due to tiredness/ stupidity I drilled it out to 8mm rather than the correct tapping drill *for* 8mm. hehe

So, is this now scrap or is there a way out? I have a plethora of tools, can weld etc. have never done a helicoil which could be an option?

Fill it with weld and then drill and tap a fresh hole?

Scrap it and cost myself a chunk out of my budget?

If you don’t have an answer, feel free to flame me for being so daft. biggrin



Edited by eltax91 on Sunday 3rd November 23:18

Smokey Bear

57 posts

31 months

Sunday 3rd November
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Maybe I’m missing something but is there any reason you can’t use a nut and a boot there?

eltax91

Original Poster:

10,049 posts

213 months

Sunday 3rd November
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Smokey Bear said:
Maybe I’m missing something but is there any reason you can’t use a nut and a boot there?
Nope. You aren’t missing anything. A friend just WhatsApp’d me the very same thing. I was totally over thinking it.

Nut and bolt it is! hehe

Edited by eltax91 on Sunday 3rd November 23:47

hidetheelephants

27,821 posts

200 months

Monday 4th November
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A helicoil would work assuming your hole is in the right place; the drill size for M8 is larger than 8mm.

E-bmw

9,971 posts

159 months

Monday 4th November
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eltax91 said:
Smokey Bear said:
Maybe I’m missing something but is there any reason you can’t use a nut and a boot there?
Nope. You aren’t missing anything. A friend just WhatsApp’d me the very same thing. I was totally over thinking it.

Nut and bolt it is! hehe

Edited by eltax91 on Sunday 3rd November 23:47
Sometimes you just get too close to see the obvious easy answer.

hidetheelephants

27,821 posts

200 months

Monday 4th November
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Is there clearance for a nut and bolt? Some cast manifolds are very tight and won't take a nut and bolt without a lot of grinding and you still need to get a spanner onto it.

eltax91

Original Poster:

10,049 posts

213 months

Monday 4th November
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hidetheelephants said:
Is there clearance for a nut and bolt? Some cast manifolds are very tight and won't take a nut and bolt without a lot of grinding and you still need to get a spanner onto it.
Will be checking later, but yes I think there is clearance for a socket/ extension bar

Peanut Gallery

2,521 posts

117 months

Monday 4th November
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If no room for a nut and bolt, how about a "keensert"? - Drill out to 11.5mm..
https://uk.rs-online.com/web/p/thread-repair-inser...

normalbloke

7,711 posts

226 months

Monday 4th November
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Smokey Bear said:
Maybe I’m missing something but is there any reason you can’t use a nut and a boot there?
Is that a Canadian accent I hear there…

eltax91

Original Poster:

10,049 posts

213 months

Monday 4th November
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Thanks all

Nut fitted, clearance checked - can get a socket on and a spanner on. So should be ok

donkmeister

9,236 posts

107 months

Tuesday 5th November
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Tired and/or frustrated, grabbing a drill and finding one's hand-held x and y axes aren't quite up to spec. Yup, been there.

I find in such scenarios it's handy to live nextdoor to a former machinist who puts up with one's nonsense.