Charging issue under load

Charging issue under load

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grumpynuts

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997 posts

167 months

Thursday 26th September
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I have a TVR S3, so Ford Granada 2.9 mechanicals, so nice and simple electrics. When I put the lights on the voltage drops below the required 12v, side lights drops a little, dipped beam a bit more, then with the indicators on the voltmeter goes up and down with the indicators. Without the lights on, everything is fine. Am I looking at a tired battery or tired alternator? I don't want to replace both if only one needs replacing.

DonkeyApple

59,048 posts

176 months

Thursday 26th September
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grumpynuts said:
I have a TVR S3, so Ford Granada 2.9 mechanicals, so nice and simple electrics. When I put the lights on the voltage drops below the required 12v, side lights drops a little, dipped beam a bit more, then with the indicators on the voltmeter goes up and down with the indicators. Without the lights on, everything is fine. Am I looking at a tired battery or tired alternator? I don't want to replace both if only one needs replacing.
Or a crappy Earth.

Our TVRs have always had the habit of cooking alternators into early retirement but you can do a very simplistic initial test by revving the engine up and seeing if the voltmeter goes up.

Re the battery, you'll know how old it is and how Much of a beating it's had.

Can you get hold of a voltmeter to check both and their currents etc?

But the other thing to consider is that TVRs had rubbish earths to start with and they deteriorate over time and all too often low voltage and current issues are a result of an Earth cable needing replacing.

Cats_pyjamas

1,601 posts

155 months

Thursday 26th September
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Could you not switch around a good known battery for a quick test? Could be a bad earth somewhere also, so it may be worth locating your grounding points and cleaning them up.

DonkeyApple

59,048 posts

176 months

Thursday 26th September
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The other thing with cars like this is that the noise the starter motor makes tends to tell you a lot.

When we've owned older cars for a long period we instinctively know when firing them up whether the starter is getting a full kick from the battery or something less than normal. You kind of develop a sixth sense for when it's more likely to be the alternator or the battery/earth.

119

9,561 posts

43 months

Thursday 26th September
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There are a few online tutorials (YT) that explain how to test both with a multi meter.

grumpynuts

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997 posts

167 months

Sunday 29th September
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Thanks guys, I have a voltmeter, I will try it out, I did wonder about a poor earth. I've only had the car since April and have no evidence of the battery being replaced recently, but the alternator was changed not long ago, but can't determine whether it was a new or recon one. It starts well and the battery seems strong, but you never know what lurks within the electrics of an old car, especially a TVR.

GreenV8S

30,479 posts

291 months

Sunday 29th September
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It is very normal to have voltage drops in the wiring of these cars.

Before you worry yourself too much, measure the voltage directly at the battery. I wouldn't be surprised if you've got a drop of a volt or so by the time you get to the lights, and that's enough to be very noticeable.

richhead

1,648 posts

18 months

Sunday 29th September
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grumpynuts said:
I have a TVR S3, so Ford Granada 2.9 mechanicals, so nice and simple electrics. When I put the lights on the voltage drops below the required 12v, side lights drops a little, dipped beam a bit more, then with the indicators on the voltmeter goes up and down with the indicators. Without the lights on, everything is fine. Am I looking at a tired battery or tired alternator? I don't want to replace both if only one needs replacing.
I think you might be worrying about nothing, volt meters in cars are never that accurate, is it starting ok? is the battery going flat? if not its just a quirk .
The wiring on older tvr's was never the best, if in dought put an extra earth or two on, and make sure the ones there are clean.

twibs

201 posts

145 months

Sunday 29th September
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Although not a tvr, I have recently had similar.
Check the voltage at the battery terminals.

My battery terminal voltage was correct but volt meter reading was low.

The issue was traced to a poor connection on a multi plug behind the dash where the ignition switch plugged in.