Injector seat cutter stuck in injector well
Discussion
It may not have enough grip to pull the cutter straight out, but can you get the shaft to go back in to engage with that grubscrew enough that you can get the cutter turning again? If so I'd keep spinning it anticlockwise and try to gradually walk it out.
If that doesn't work, can you show a close up end on shot so we can see what's left of the cutter to try to engage on?
If that doesn't work, can you show a close up end on shot so we can see what's left of the cutter to try to engage on?
GreenV8S said:
It may not have enough grip to pull the cutter straight out, but can you get the shaft to go back in to engage with that grubscrew enough that you can get the cutter turning again? If so I'd keep spinning it anticlockwise and try to gradually walk it out.
If that doesn't work, can you show a close up end on shot so we can see what's left of the cutter to try to engage on?
Good ideas. Will try.If that doesn't work, can you show a close up end on shot so we can see what's left of the cutter to try to engage on?
Super Sonic said:
Can you glue something into the cutter to pull it out with?
If you can get a spare cutter handle, you can use a permanent glue like araldite.
Haven't tried, but I don't think it would be strong enough - the rawlplug seemed fairly tight.If you can get a spare cutter handle, you can use a permanent glue like araldite.
Would happily sacrifice all my tools at this point!
Super Sonic said:
Just put the glue round the sides, you don't want it falling down the hole in the middle.
Luckily have a plastic plug in there so safe.eliot said:
expoxy the driver tool into the cutter to block the hole up and then crank the engine - would that blow the cutter out?
This seems more likely to work.Will add these to the list, thanks all.
Edited by Jakg on Tuesday 27th August 10:12
Possibly your biggest problem may be that if the grub screw has undone itself enough to let go of the cutter, has it undone itself enough to get jammed against the wall of the injector well.
I mention this because I am surprised that the screw/expanding bolt methods you tried didn't work.
Can you have a look down another & ascertain if there would be a "step" in size between the cutter & the injector nozzle that could be "hooked under" with your expanding bolt method?
I mention this because I am surprised that the screw/expanding bolt methods you tried didn't work.
Can you have a look down another & ascertain if there would be a "step" in size between the cutter & the injector nozzle that could be "hooked under" with your expanding bolt method?
A blind bearing puller might do this. You need to have a search around for one with enough reach and thin enough to reach into the cutter body.
In future (if it didn’t already have one) drill a small recess where the grub screw lands on the flame part of the handle. This will help stop this happening, and allow more force to be able to pull it back out, with less risk of the handle pulling out.
In future (if it didn’t already have one) drill a small recess where the grub screw lands on the flame part of the handle. This will help stop this happening, and allow more force to be able to pull it back out, with less risk of the handle pulling out.
Jakg said:
GreenV8S said:
It may not have enough grip to pull the cutter straight out, but can you get the shaft to go back in to engage with that grubscrew enough that you can get the cutter turning again? If so I'd keep spinning it anticlockwise and try to gradually walk it out.
If that doesn't work, can you show a close up end on shot so we can see what's left of the cutter to try to engage on?
Good ideas. Will try.If that doesn't work, can you show a close up end on shot so we can see what's left of the cutter to try to engage on?
Super Sonic said:
Can you glue something into the cutter to pull it out with?
If you can get a spare cutter handle, you can use a permanent glue like araldite.
Haven't tried, but I don't think it would be strong enough - the rawlplug seemed fairly tight.If you can get a spare cutter handle, you can use a permanent glue like araldite.
Would happily sacrifice all my tools at this point!
Super Sonic said:
Just put the glue round the sides, you don't want it falling down the hole in the middle.
Luckily have a plastic plug in there so safe.eliot said:
expoxy the driver tool into the cutter to block the hole up and then crank the engine - would that blow the cutter out?
This seems more likely to work.Will add these to the list, thanks all.
Edited by Jakg on Tuesday 27th August 10:12
Would something like a pair of internal circlip pliers get in there to grip it from the inside.
Failing that the epoxy idea seems a good idea, but pull out , or turn anticlockwise, not turning over the engine, although you might end up with a bigger problem if it wont come out.
it does sound like the grub screw is the problem here, probably come out a bit and jammed it up. i would imagine the tool is hard, so not sure trying to cut into it would work.
Good luck, and let us know how you get on.
Failing that the epoxy idea seems a good idea, but pull out , or turn anticlockwise, not turning over the engine, although you might end up with a bigger problem if it wont come out.
it does sound like the grub screw is the problem here, probably come out a bit and jammed it up. i would imagine the tool is hard, so not sure trying to cut into it would work.
Good luck, and let us know how you get on.
E-bmw said:
The worry with using eaziouts for me would be how brittle they are in case it broke in the process.
Watching a mobile make specialist mechanic using one to remove a broken spark plug, the torque he was using was unbelievable, the sort of leverage and pressures that one would be exerting on a tight hub nut, obviously these weren't cheap tat from the usual auction site.
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