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Anyone have any useful info?
It's too cheap. A classic if it's too good to be true it probably isn't?
That's £2p/l for a fully synthetic oil complying with Renault specification RN17.
The next cheapest from a known brand is around £6p/l
I'm not tempted but interested if anyone knows anything? I'd imagine getting all the individual manufacturer certifications is not a cheap process.
It's too cheap. A classic if it's too good to be true it probably isn't?
That's £2p/l for a fully synthetic oil complying with Renault specification RN17.
The next cheapest from a known brand is around £6p/l
I'm not tempted but interested if anyone knows anything? I'd imagine getting all the individual manufacturer certifications is not a cheap process.
Belle427 said:
If it meets all the specs then it's fine for your application.
I'd maybe change the oil a bit sooner personally but it's cheap enough to do that.
I've normally overlooked it but my normal Vag oil of choice Quantum has shot up recently so may buy some Mannol next time.
Does it though? The title reads like an Aliexpress title where they bang every key word they can in in the hope something lands. I'd maybe change the oil a bit sooner personally but it's cheap enough to do that.
I've normally overlooked it but my normal Vag oil of choice Quantum has shot up recently so may buy some Mannol next time.
I could stick a VW505 sticker on some sunflower oil, doesn't mean anything.
E-bmw said:
Nothing wrong with Mannol, have used it before, when buying in 20 litre barrels oil is frequently under 1/2 price of 5 litre bottles.
That's true but it's well over £100 cheaper than any competitor.I'm convinced there's something dodgy about it.
Unfortunately all the youtube oil analysis type channels haven't touched it apart from one dodgy one that tells you nothing.
ChocolateFrog said:
E-bmw said:
Nothing wrong with Mannol, have used it before, when buying in 20 litre barrels oil is frequently under 1/2 price of 5 litre bottles.
That's true but it's well over £100 cheaper than any competitor.I'm convinced there's something dodgy about it.
There is nothing wrong with Mannol.
That doesn't mean you aren't looking at a dodgy seller selling something different in a Mannol barrel.
E-bmw said:
ChocolateFrog said:
E-bmw said:
Nothing wrong with Mannol, have used it before, when buying in 20 litre barrels oil is frequently under 1/2 price of 5 litre bottles.
That's true but it's well over £100 cheaper than any competitor.I'm convinced there's something dodgy about it.
There is nothing wrong with Mannol.
That doesn't mean you aren't looking at a dodgy seller selling something different in a Mannol barrel.
Can't remember what I paid for my last batch but I would be happy at that.
I think you're right to be a bit suspicious of it.
You just don't really find much information on the company when you look into them.
They appear to be a logistics operation only in the UK.
Don't appear to be manufactured in Germany or have any sort of presence there; careers page etc, despite playing on it a bit.
Possibly based in Latvia or Russia, not sure.
Are perhaps related to 'SCT' which are/were another very cheap supplier of various automotive fluids.
On the plus side, they aren't just relabeling generic oil as I think the bottles they ship in are unique to them.
Resellers will obviously like them because they are so cheap so their markup is greater.
You just don't really find much information on the company when you look into them.
They appear to be a logistics operation only in the UK.
Don't appear to be manufactured in Germany or have any sort of presence there; careers page etc, despite playing on it a bit.
Possibly based in Latvia or Russia, not sure.
Are perhaps related to 'SCT' which are/were another very cheap supplier of various automotive fluids.
On the plus side, they aren't just relabeling generic oil as I think the bottles they ship in are unique to them.
Resellers will obviously like them because they are so cheap so their markup is greater.
https://ukla-vls.org.uk/?s=Mannol
They are on the radar within the industry.
Cheap, non approved base oils are giving an issue in the industry at the moment with some sellers stating specs that the oil doesn’t test well against.
Good quality product costs, unfortunately.
They are on the radar within the industry.
Cheap, non approved base oils are giving an issue in the industry at the moment with some sellers stating specs that the oil doesn’t test well against.
Good quality product costs, unfortunately.
sanguinary said:
https://ukla-vls.org.uk/?s=Mannol
They are on the radar within the industry.
Cheap, non approved base oils are giving an issue in the industry at the moment with some sellers stating specs that the oil doesn’t test well against.
Good quality product costs, unfortunately.
Is it tested against those specs at all? I seriously have my doubts. They are on the radar within the industry.
Cheap, non approved base oils are giving an issue in the industry at the moment with some sellers stating specs that the oil doesn’t test well against.
Good quality product costs, unfortunately.
Interesting to note Westway get several mentions too. Another super cheap oil.
Edited by ChocolateFrog on Sunday 26th May 12:00
Barchettaman said:
I‘ve used Mannol (and Formex, which is occasionally a bit cheaper still) for years without any issues.
The stuff I get is 5W 30 Dexos 2/LL04 spec.
I wouldn’t worry. It’s the frequency and specification that counts, not the bloody brand.
Well they're telling you that's what you're getting. The stuff I get is 5W 30 Dexos 2/LL04 spec.
I wouldn’t worry. It’s the frequency and specification that counts, not the bloody brand.
ChocolateFrog said:
Is it tested against those specs at all? I seriously have my doubts.
For a typical approved engine oil, usually the additive suppliers will do the initial bench testing. They then release an additive pack which the manufacturer will purchase.To gain OEM approval the manufacturer then has to blend in accordance to the add pack supplier by using their formulation, product technology and listed base oil types.
Once that’s done, the manufacturer will then apply to the OEM for approval of its brand. Depending on the OEM, expect this to cost from £2500 to £10000 per product. This is not for a lifetime approval either. This allows the manufacturer to list the spec correctly on its packaging.
I couldn’t say if they’ve carried out any tests, or the formulation used. I do know that £2 per litre wouldn’t cover manufacturing costs for a typical blender in the UK or Europe when buying technology from the approved suppliers.
sanguinary said:
https://ukla-vls.org.uk/?s=Mannol
They are on the radar within the industry.
Cheap, non approved base oils are giving an issue in the industry at the moment with some sellers stating specs that the oil doesn’t test well against.
Good quality product costs, unfortunately.
Good find, never knew about the VLS site.They are on the radar within the industry.
Cheap, non approved base oils are giving an issue in the industry at the moment with some sellers stating specs that the oil doesn’t test well against.
Good quality product costs, unfortunately.
Had always wondered about Mannol oils as I've heard quite a few people mention / recommend the brand - was always a little dubious due to the price.
This confirms it, not that I would have ever ventured, but will stick to the main brands I think.
AlexGSi2000 said:
Good find, never knew about the VLS site.
Had always wondered about Mannol oils as I've heard quite a few people mention / recommend the brand - was always a little dubious due to the price.
This confirms it, not that I would have ever ventured, but will stick to the main brands I think.
There are non-main brands worth looking at, but I agree it can be a minefield. Many of them produce on behalf of the bigger brands too. One thing you can do is see if the manufacturer is a member of the UKLA as that goes along way to ensure quality and openness. There are a good number of well thought of blenders in the UK. We do still produce some of the best quality products in the UK which is nice to be part of.Had always wondered about Mannol oils as I've heard quite a few people mention / recommend the brand - was always a little dubious due to the price.
This confirms it, not that I would have ever ventured, but will stick to the main brands I think.
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