What penetrating oil??

What penetrating oil??

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Captain Answer

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1,361 posts

194 months

Monday 6th July 2020
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Still tend to get plus gas but just wondering what others recommend? Tend to get aerosol plus gas rather than the tin with spout

hellorent

513 posts

70 months

sparkythecat

7,961 posts

262 months

Monday 6th July 2020
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You need to find out what those YouTube restoration masters use.
They can drag the rustiest piece of machinery imaginable from the bottom of a salt marsh, give it a squirt of their magic fluid and hey presto! the fasteners easily come undone , time and time again.
I suspect it' must be some combination of mermaid's fanny batter, unobtainium paste and unicorn jizz, but If you do find out what it is, please let us know

Getragdogleg

9,102 posts

190 months

Monday 6th July 2020
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Brake fuid mixed with some 3 in one or even diesel is a good bet for really crusty old ste.

Look at the various YouTube vids concerning the subject.

Captain Answer

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1,361 posts

194 months

Monday 6th July 2020
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Getragdogleg said:
Brake fuid mixed with some 3 in one or even diesel is a good bet for really crusty old ste.

Look at the various YouTube vids concerning the subject.
Never seen this before, was aware of ATF and acetone mixture, used that before now

Skyedriver

18,893 posts

289 months

Monday 6th July 2020
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The stuff that Screwfix sell gets good reviews but I haven't tried it. Planning on getting some soon so following this thread

rigga

8,753 posts

208 months

Monday 6th July 2020
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50/50 acetone (nail varnish remover) and ATF

Evoluzione

10,345 posts

250 months

Monday 6th July 2020
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It's all a total waste of time and money, sorry.

Belle427

9,742 posts

240 months

Tuesday 7th July 2020
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I use the plus gas fast release, not a miracle product but seems to help.
Stinks and lingers on clothing though.

Getragdogleg

9,102 posts

190 months

Tuesday 7th July 2020
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Evoluzione said:
It's all a total waste of time and money, sorry.
Most of the time I agree. But if the circumstances are right it will help.

I had a totally seized pedal assembly from a 1937 Buick that I had to salvage, I dipped it in brake fluid and diesel for a while and it all unstuck.


LimSlip

800 posts

61 months

Tuesday 7th July 2020
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They are all much of a muchness. Despite the internet fanboys having a fit if anyone uses WD40 ("it's not a pentrating oil it's a water displacer" being screeched at regular intervals) it's never worked any worse or better than anything else for me. None of these sprays dissolve rust, they only help once you have broken the rust bond in a threaded fastener at which point they all help.

Captain Answer

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1,361 posts

194 months

Tuesday 7th July 2020
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LimSlip said:
They are all much of a muchness. Despite the internet fanboys having a fit if anyone uses WD40 ("it's not a pentrating oil it's a water displacer" being screeched at regular intervals) it's never worked any worse or better than anything else for me. None of these sprays dissolve rust, they only help once you have broken the rust bond in a threaded fastener at which point they all help.
WD-40 def can be useful, if only to clean up the threading a little in a pinch - used some to help clean crayon off some wallpaper from my son when he was little also biggrin

E-bmw

9,971 posts

159 months

Wednesday 8th July 2020
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Pretty much any light liquid with lubricating properties will have some positive effect.

Diesel is good & easy.

A mix of ATF/Acetone is very good (youtube it) and something I keep an oil can of in my garage.

g3org3y

21,107 posts

198 months

Wednesday 8th July 2020
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Evoluzione

10,345 posts

250 months

Wednesday 8th July 2020
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The point about lubricating the thread after you've cracked it is correct, if it's solid to begin with then no magic potion is going to get in there - end of story. Serious heat is the thing to use if they are totally seized.

In the video:
The nuts came off with no magic potions applied so it was a total waste of time.
The studs were pointing upwards so gravity helped, this is a very rare thing to find on any normal car.
Lets see him put some zinc plated bolts through an aluminium suspension component or hub, apply salt water for 10 years then try get it undone as is the case in real life. I'd pay good money to watch that hehe

9 times out of 10 it isn't possible to remove a seized part from a car as it's normal for whatever is stuck to be holding it on or it's too big to be soaked in a container.

If I've set aside Saturday to strip down something and replace it then that's when it has to be done, I can't wait for some jizz to try and do its best for 3 days. It needs to be off, done and car back on the road.

finishing touch

809 posts

174 months

Wednesday 8th July 2020
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Reading this thread it occurred to me that I have (usually) around 1000L of Kerosene in a tank in the back garden.
The tank even has a tap fitted where the sight glass attaches.

Its fairly fluid but presumably it would mix with hydraulic oil (?) and at least equal the diesel recipes already mentioned.


Next time a household squirty gun becomes empty I'll give it a go.


I'll still buy WD40 though as for turning / tapping aluminium on the lathe it the dogs ' .

Paul G

Hol

8,722 posts

207 months

Wednesday 8th July 2020
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Plus Gas.



Chris32345

2,116 posts

69 months

Wednesday 8th July 2020
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Heat and a vibroshock type tool best things for sized nuts

ChampionRabbit

103 posts

72 months

Saturday 11th July 2020
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Evoluzione said:
It's all a total waste of time and money, sorry.
This. It's ok for de-squeaking etc on occasion, but for seized components it's a total non-starter as far as I'm concerned.

A torch is the answer 9 times out of 10.

105.4

4,214 posts

78 months

Saturday 11th July 2020
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sparkythecat said:
You need to find out what those YouTube restoration masters use.

I suspect it' must be some combination of mermaid's fanny batter and unicorn jizz.
Which makes me wonder what the mermaid and the unicorn have been doing together?

As for the various magic potions, I find them to be all much of a muchness and less useful than swearing at the seized fastner. At least swearing at the seized stud makes you feel better......briefly.....until it snaps, requiring you to then spend the next hour drilling the bd out banghead

IMO prevention is better than the cure. Which is why I always use Copperslip on fasteners and I curse those that don’t rage