Dyno graph autopsy - stage 2 vx220 turbo

Dyno graph autopsy - stage 2 vx220 turbo

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xxgomxx

Original Poster:

90 posts

234 months

Sunday 15th March 2015
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Can anyone help me explain what's happening on my dyno run please the car should be pushing out 250 ish with a stage 2 remap, Milltek and sports cat.

Any help greatly appreciated

Phil

Edited by xxgomxx on Sunday 15th March 08:59

LarJammer

2,280 posts

217 months

Sunday 15th March 2015
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the dyno operator needs to rev it! those graphs stop at 4500rpm. however the power does seem to drop off a cliff at 4krpm, what work has been done to it recently? new cambelt perhaps?

xxgomxx

Original Poster:

90 posts

234 months

Sunday 15th March 2015
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No work recently. The cambelt is due to be changed soon. Why would the cambelt play a part in this graph being poor?

Cheers

Phil

LarJammer

2,280 posts

217 months

Sunday 15th March 2015
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because the cam timing could be wrong. has it always been the same or has the performance changed?

xxgomxx

Original Poster:

90 posts

234 months

Sunday 15th March 2015
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Never had a problem with it but the rollers suggest a different story.

I guess a number of factors could be bought to play just wanted a steer as to what to do first.


Cheers

Phil

davepoth

29,395 posts

206 months

Sunday 15th March 2015
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I don't understand the first chart - the AFR doesn't start until 4k which is when the problem started, and looks all screwy anyway. Did you speak to the operator to find out what happened and why he didn't rev it out?

The boost looks odd too - I don't think it should peak low and then drop off like that.

andyiley

9,981 posts

159 months

Sunday 15th March 2015
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davepoth said:
I don't understand the first chart - the AFR doesn't start until 4k which is when the problem started, and looks all screwy anyway. Did you speak to the operator to find out what happened and why he didn't rev it out?

The boost looks odd too - I don't think it should peak low and then drop off like that.
It actually starts at the left hand end of the graph, goes all the way across to the right hand end of the graph & then for some reason the graph reverses & ends where yiou think it is starting if you look a bit more closely.

xxgomxx

Original Poster:

90 posts

234 months

Sunday 15th March 2015
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Are all vxt220 temperamental? I've done nothing but check the forum for the last 2 weeks and I keep
Finding issues with them :-(

AW10

4,497 posts

256 months

Tuesday 17th March 2015
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AFR seems low or is just me? Theoretical optimum is 14.7:1 but the graph goes as low as 10? If the AFR sensor is accurate that's very very lean and won't do the engine any good, much less help produce the expected power.

PaulKemp

979 posts

152 months

Tuesday 17th March 2015
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10 to 1 is rich

PaulKemp

979 posts

152 months

Tuesday 17th March 2015
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10 to 1 is rich

andyiley

9,981 posts

159 months

Tuesday 17th March 2015
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Yes it is.

Yes it is.

scarble

5,277 posts

164 months

Wednesday 18th March 2015
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Is that too rich, 4000rpm, full load on a lightly turbocharged engine?
Do you have any previous dyno runs since the remap?

It being 7:30 I thought at first we were trying to figure out why the torque suddenly drops to 0 hehe

Unless it was knocking I'd have revved it out, not got much to go on otherwise. No record of VVT angle or spark timing?

Edited by scarble on Wednesday 18th March 07:44

AW10

4,497 posts

256 months

Wednesday 18th March 2015
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PaulKemp said:
10 to 1 is rich
Correct! headache

But definitely too far from optimal - exhaust must be black as can be?

scarble

5,277 posts

164 months

Wednesday 18th March 2015
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Yes, with the benefit of it's not morning any more, that is hella rich.
Probably it's running open loop because power curve? So without lambda sensor feedback, meaning the fuel quantity injected will be based on MAF/MAP/modelling and a target AFR so either what the ECU thinks is the right amount of fuel to get the the right AFR is nonsense due to what the ECU thinks the amount of air going in being nonsense OR the ECU is getting the amount of fuel right but more is getting put in due to something like a stuck injector or the wrong injectors or.. high fuel pressure? Never really heard of anything like that happening.. and the third possibility, the target AFR is nonsense due to something like a dodgy remap (most likely).

But I might be way off, to be honest thinking is a bit difficult right now, I'm about ready for bed tongue out

Edited by scarble on Wednesday 18th March 21:14

xxgomxx

Original Poster:

90 posts

234 months

Wednesday 18th March 2015
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It's had most things replaced now but it's pointing towards a crap map.


Pumaracing

2,089 posts

214 months

Friday 7th August 2015
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Just seen this thread. A bit late I know. Isn't it blindingly obvious what the problem is?

Richyvrlimited

1,839 posts

170 months

Friday 7th August 2015
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Pumaracing said:
Just seen this thread. A bit late I know. Isn't it blindingly obvious what the problem is?
Yeah a shocking map.

Pumaracing

2,089 posts

214 months

Friday 7th August 2015
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Lol. No!

R8VXF

6,788 posts

122 months

Friday 7th August 2015
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Poorly calibrated dyno for a start.