New concrete floor to be cast. 2 post hoist or scissor lift?

New concrete floor to be cast. 2 post hoist or scissor lift?

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jamieandthemagic

Original Poster:

621 posts

199 months

Thursday 2nd October 2014
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Cut a long story short, I will be getting a new garage floor cast, as mine slopes 8 degrees. So I would be able to cast holes for the flush fitment of a dual scissor lift, or cast the fixing rods for a 2 post hoist.

The garage is just about a car long and 2.5 cars wide.
Needs single phase connection

Both I see have pros and cons.

Scissor lift
Out of the way when not in use
Can open car doors easily when elevated
Less choice
Not sure if they have same safety elements and partial lift ability

2 post hoist
Always in the way
More choice
Adjustable for car types

Opinions and feedback welcome

This gives you a rough idea of the space and layout.......




Mr2Mike

20,143 posts

262 months

Thursday 2nd October 2014
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I'd have a two post lift every time, providing there was enough space. However, your pics don't show how much room is at the other end of the garage, and I have a feeling a two poster may intrude into your second car space.

jamieandthemagic

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621 posts

199 months

Thursday 2nd October 2014
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About 500mm each end on the junior, about 300mm each end on the 75.

The opening for the garage doors is to be made as one large one, and loose the up n over doors.

Plenty of height.

buzzer

3,560 posts

247 months

Thursday 2nd October 2014
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depends on how wide the garage is overall... and if you want to still store two cars in there. by the look of it, you might struggle with a two poster in there if you want it to remain a two car garage.

below is the setup I have. I can still park 2 cars in there side by side. I wish I had your height!

the scissor hoist is also great as a bike lift














jamieandthemagic

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621 posts

199 months

Thursday 2nd October 2014
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What make? Can they go higher , ie stand under and drop a gearbox/ prop shaft

buzzer

3,560 posts

247 months

Thursday 2nd October 2014
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jamieandthemagic said:
What make? Can they go higher , ie stand under and drop a gearbox/ prop shaft
these guys gave me good service...

http://www.automotechservices.co.uk/product-catego...



jamieandthemagic

Original Poster:

621 posts

199 months

Thursday 2nd October 2014
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Cheers buzzer, that's perfect there As7330

High rise, cast in floor scissor, ok price too.

http://www.automotechservices.co.uk/products/as-73...

Edited by jamieandthemagic on Thursday 2nd October 22:07

buzzer

3,560 posts

247 months

Thursday 2nd October 2014
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jamieandthemagic said:
Cheers buzzer, that's perfect there As7330

High rise, cast in floor scissor, ok price too.

http://www.automotechservices.co.uk/products/as-73...

Edited by jamieandthemagic on Thursday 2nd October 22:07
have a little think about if you really want to cast it into the floor... My mate did this and wished he hadn't... it has advantages, but some disadvantages as well.

his recess continually fills with crap, and oil and water...

its fixed in position. he recently wanted to get a 7 series on there, but it would not go on very well as it was too long with the ramp in the position it was.

mine is easy to drive over when I want to have 2 cars in there. If I need to move it its a couple of bolts. Mine actually came with a kit of wheels that made it moveable. I only bolted it down with a couple of bolts to stop it moving forward as I drove on...

jamieandthemagic

Original Poster:

621 posts

199 months

Thursday 2nd October 2014
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I wouldn't even get a 7 series in the garage.

I'm anal, so would Hoover out the shallow pit.

imagineifyeswill

1,233 posts

173 months

Saturday 4th October 2014
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Looking at the length of your garage i think you might struggle with a two post lift. On most two post lifts the front and rear arms are of different lengths, the end of the vehicle with most weight i.e. engine end should be on the shorter arms, due to differen vehicles have jacking points in different positions very few cars sit absolutely central on the ramp so yo could have problems fouling the wall front or back. In a garage your size I think you be better with the portable scissor lift.

Dollyman1850

6,319 posts

257 months

Saturday 4th October 2014
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With that height I would go 4 poster then you could stack cars and have more workshop room??
You can get 4 posters modified for length and width. A guy in holland makes them to suit and delivers to UK. some of the TVR lads did a group buy a few years ago.

With a 2 post you would need to dig some deep founds and preferably pre-place the threaded re-bar to get a secure anchor fix. i have seen some shocking 2 poster installs in domestic properties into as little as 100mm.
You can fit to shallow concrete but in those cases I would also weld gussets to the main stanchions to provide fore and aft support.

The small scissor lifts are OK as long as you are only working on the corners..they tend to get in the way if you want to do anything else


shantybeater

1,197 posts

176 months

Monday 30th March 2015
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OP can I ask what your end result was? I have a similar sized garage, 490cm deep x 510cm wide. I'm on a budget so turning the double doors into a single is probably a stretch too far. Ideally I'd like a 2 poster but not sure how solid the concrete floor is or how i'd position it.

A four poster might restrict access too much, a scissor could be placed horizontally across the garage floor to allow maximum access when working on the car? (sacrificing a space whilst in use only)

Question for me is, do full height scissors allow for engine/gearbox removal on a porsche? do they have any major disadvantages over a four poster/two poster?

Edited by shantybeater on Monday 30th March 12:17