Wierd Wipers

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Skyedriver

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18,916 posts

289 months

Friday 13th December 2013
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Thought I'd try you guys a I/we have sort of drawn a blank on the TVR Wedge pages
TVR 350i Wedge
Rover SD1 steering column and switchgear, single wiper, two speed with intermittent.
Switch is supposed to be, from the top: fast/slow/off/intermittent.
The lead that feeds the +ve to the switch is no longer live for some reason although the fuse is ok.
I have slow speed on the bottom two positions (which should be off & intermittent)
If I connect a flying lead live to the post on the switch, which should be live but isn't, I get: fast/slow/slow/slow with no off!

About to try and venture behind the dashboard - going in, I might be some time....

BlueMR2

8,732 posts

209 months

Monday 16th December 2013
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Skyedriver said:
Thought I'd try you guys a I/we have sort of drawn a blank on the TVR Wedge pages
TVR 350i Wedge
Rover SD1 steering column and switchgear, single wiper, two speed with intermittent.
Switch is supposed to be, from the top: fast/slow/off/intermittent.
The lead that feeds the +ve to the switch is no longer live for some reason although the fuse is ok.
I have slow speed on the bottom two positions (which should be off & intermittent)
If I connect a flying lead live to the post on the switch, which should be live but isn't, I get: fast/slow/slow/slow with no off!

About to try and venture behind the dashboard - going in, I might be some time....
A failed relay?

Skyedriver

Original Poster:

18,916 posts

289 months

Monday 16th December 2013
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BlueMR2 said:
failed relay?
Thanks for the offering, but I tried a different relay without success - as well as a lot of other options. Screwed it back together to use the car, more than a little puzzled..not usually beaten by car electrics... need a rethink

Athlon

5,170 posts

213 months

Monday 16th December 2013
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It might be the wiped contacts in the wiper motor gearbox have failed?

ch427

9,743 posts

240 months

Monday 16th December 2013
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Have you examined the wiper motor at all?
Only thing i can think off is water ingress into the motor causing some kind of winding short if your sure the switch is ok.

Skyedriver

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18,916 posts

289 months

Tuesday 17th December 2013
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Athlon said:
It might be the wiped contacts in the wiper motor gearbox have failed?
That sounds like a possible.
Wiper motor is in a dry location although the car was "stored" for a long time
It doesn't look like it would come out easily though.

I honestly believe the switch to be ok. The power lead to it is no longer live for some reason but a connection is made somewhere when I connect a live to the correct post on the switch, just doesn't do the right thing wiper wise.
So I assume it is earthing somewhere.

Since putting it back together I,ve now lost dipped beam - high beam on both positions - not my week I think.

ch427

9,743 posts

240 months

Wednesday 18th December 2013
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May be worth locating and checking earth points if multiple circuits are playing up.

Skyedriver

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18,916 posts

289 months

Wednesday 18th December 2013
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Tried earthing the wipere motor to the battery - long jumper leads - without success
Car had a blipper operated battery isolator - removed that tonight... no change

When I disconnected the high/low beam column switch, the headlights still work on high. Surely this cannot be right...

Edited by Skyedriver on Wednesday 18th December 21:40

Doctor Volt

336 posts

132 months

Friday 20th December 2013
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Hello Please go to the below link and download the PDF File
http://www.vintagemodelairplane.com/pages/Download...

I will visit back later to check that you have the file and then we can go through this one

The first thing you should be checking is - Why is there no supply to the wiper switch?

When you find the supply fault all other faults may be revealed

Under no circumstances should you be connecting fly leads to the switch or motor unless you have removed the wiper delay unit and even then you could still easily burn out the park switch that is mounted to the gear end of the motor

Good luck, communicate later

Skyedriver

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18,916 posts

289 months

Friday 20th December 2013
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Downloaded thanks - looks very similar to the TVR Bible one I have.
no idea why there is no +ve to the column switch and cannot see where it comes from, presumably the fuse box but I cannot get to the back of it.

Doctor Volt

336 posts

132 months

Saturday 21st December 2013
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The wiper switch green supply wire does connect to the fusebox but I cant help you with fuse designations as I have no TVR information, does your diagram show what the fuse number is for the wiper circuit
If you know what fuse supplies the switch and you are struggling to get to the back of the fusebox you can "Delve Deeper by carrying out the following test from the front side of the box"

Keep in mind your ignition fuses (outputs all green wires) will be supplied from the ignition switch through a white wire and in most cases directly, if the fuses are not directly supplied by the ignition switch there will be a relay in the circuit to take the load off the ignition switch and the colour of the wire from that relay will still be white or white with a coloured trace
Take a good look at your diagram and see if there are other fuses supplied by the same ignition supply as the wiper fuse - I expect you to find several fuses supplied by the same wire that supplies the wiper circuit
If you find that the other fuses supplied by the same wire as the wiper fuse are live yet the wiper fuse is dead it means you have a faulty fusebox

Move on - "Delve Deeper by carrying out the following test from the front side of the box"
After disconnecting the column switch plugs connect a 5Watt bulb to the green supply wire at the wiper switch plug (use an old bulb holder or solder wires to a 5Watt bulb and test it works before going any further) - Now connect a 21Watt bulb from the wiper circuit fuse to the battery live - The 5Watt bulb at the column switch should now be glowing at full brightness, if the 5Watt bulb at the column switch is not at full brightness (easy to check full brightness by connecting your 5Watt bulb across the battery) - there is a problem with the wiring harness between the fusebox and column switch and that may explain your other arisen problem with the headlights staying on.

I did notice that you edited your post, editing a post when fault finding is concerned is a no go, I hope I am not wasting my valuable time here

Good luck and I will follow this topic

Doctor Volt

336 posts

132 months

Saturday 21st December 2013
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Spent much time on this
A reply would be good
I remember the edited post

Skyedriver

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18,916 posts

289 months

Saturday 21st December 2013
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Thanks Doctor Volt, been out all day today, will try the bulb technic in the next couple of days to see what is happening. With a young son, school, swimming lessons and Christmas imminent time is a bit short for me at the moment

Doctor Volt

336 posts

132 months

Saturday 28th December 2013
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OK Thank you for the reply, I will visit back to see how you are getting on in solving the problem