Nowhere for axle stand

Nowhere for axle stand

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SLacKer

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2,622 posts

214 months

Wednesday 28th November 2012
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I had to jack my car the other day to get the front wheel off to sort out a blockage in the windscreen washer bottle. Anyway having got the wheel off there was no obvious place for an axle stand as the underside is covered in aluminium plating so I put one stand on the lower arm and the other I placed to contact the lower part of the wheel hub. The lower arm was just touching and was there as a backup so I had two points of support and the backup.

Has anyone ever come across a hub adaptor that would allow the axle stand to support the hub just like a wheel does. So you bolt the thing to the wheel hub and then put the stand underneath a short length of tube coming from the hub adaptor and then allow the car to rest on that. This would of course be no use where you need to unload the suspension but for other jobs would be fine.

Here is an image of the kind of thing I am on about although it is used with wind turbines



Hope my description hasn't confused anybody.


Dave^

7,515 posts

260 months

Wednesday 28th November 2012
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Google "Car Show Wheel Stand"

HustleRussell

25,205 posts

167 months

Wednesday 28th November 2012
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Dave's show stand is a bit low to actually work on the car but it proves your concept. Remember that the closer to the hub you place the support, the smaller the bending moment on the shaft and bearing.

SLacKer

Original Poster:

2,622 posts

214 months

Thursday 29th November 2012
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Never seen the wheel stands before, good catch.

I would like a hub adaptor so I can use an axle stand and set the height as required.

Dave^

7,515 posts

260 months

Thursday 29th November 2012
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How about a set of particularly wide wheel spacers, bolt those to the hubs, and sit those on the axle stands?

Although it would be much safer if the "spacers" were attached to the cup of the axle stands...

Disclaimer: I am not responsible for your or anyone else's death, ever...

Dave^

7,515 posts

260 months

Friday 30th November 2012
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This,

http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...

seems a much better idea than mine!

acowan84

25 posts

151 months

Friday 30th November 2012
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That looks like a great idea! I was having an issue with my 520 as there is so much plastic underneath!

bimsb6

8,172 posts

228 months

Saturday 8th December 2012
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How about using a tyre less steel rim with an axle stand in the rim well ?

AtticusFinch

27,527 posts

190 months

Saturday 8th December 2012
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bimsb6 said:
How about using a tyre less steel rim with an axle stand in the rim well ?
How unstable does this sound? Not April 1st is it.

bimsb6

8,172 posts

228 months

Saturday 8th December 2012
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AtticusFinch said:
bimsb6 said:
How about using a tyre less steel rim with an axle stand in the rim well ?
How unstable does this sound? Not April 1st is it.
Handbrake on / in gear no problem

PaulKemp

979 posts

152 months

Saturday 8th December 2012
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I wouldn't
Brakes slip gearbox is only held on engine compression

AtticusFinch

27,527 posts

190 months

Saturday 8th December 2012
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bimsb6 said:
AtticusFinch said:
bimsb6 said:
How about using a tyre less steel rim with an axle stand in the rim well ?
How unstable does this sound? Not April 1st is it.
Handbrake on / in gear no problem
I my friend, are a little more risk averse than you (convinced now it's a wind up)

AtticusFinch

27,527 posts

190 months

Saturday 8th December 2012
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PaulKemp said:
I wouldn't
gearbox is only held on engine compression
Not even that unless your diff is locked.

SLacKer

Original Poster:

2,622 posts

214 months

Sunday 9th December 2012
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I am not aware of a steel rim for this car so that is out.

It is a pity that there isn't a locking jack. If I could somehow lock the jack all would be well.

Condi

17,939 posts

178 months

Sunday 16th December 2012
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The lower suspension arm is the usual place to put an axle stand? Not many things have an axle you can get to, not on cars anyway. The suspension will do just fine as long as its stable.

Willhook

112 posts

149 months

Tuesday 25th December 2012
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Nearly always go on the bottom balljoint for max lift or the subframe/wishbone mounts if its all the wheels off.

Mr2Mike

20,143 posts

262 months

Friday 28th December 2012
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Willhook said:
Nearly always go on the bottom balljoint for max lift or the subframe/wishbone mounts if its all the wheels off.
You don't get max lift on the bottom balljoints since the suspension will compress when you lower the car onto the stands. Not to mention that the balljoint is most often inaccessible with the wheels on.