2040 - Humans to be replaced by machines.
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Not for humans…
Within the next couple of years computers will be as “intelligent” as a mouse.
By 2020 we will have reverse engineered the human brain.
By 2040 computing intelligence will rival that of all human brains combined.
Clearly all theoretical but following a clear exponential graph that is coming true. Like it or not this could be soon as significant as humans first evolving speech and will provide the answers to many questions, including living forever (in the virtual sense) by downloading your brains contents to a machine, and biological and machine integration (its happening now).
Are we just a biological experiment crated by our forefathers whose sense of “time” is irrelevant because they discovered how to live forever?
Relevant links:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raymond_Kurzweil
Ray Kurzweil Explains the Coming Singularity:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1uIzS1uCOcE
http://singinst.org/overview/whyworktowardthesingu...
Extract:
At the very least it should be physically possible to achieve a million-to-one speedup in thinking, at which rate a subjective year would pass in 31 physical seconds. At this rate the entire subjective time-span from Socrates in ancient Greece to modern-day humanity would pass in under twenty-two hours.
Within the next couple of years computers will be as “intelligent” as a mouse.
By 2020 we will have reverse engineered the human brain.
By 2040 computing intelligence will rival that of all human brains combined.
Clearly all theoretical but following a clear exponential graph that is coming true. Like it or not this could be soon as significant as humans first evolving speech and will provide the answers to many questions, including living forever (in the virtual sense) by downloading your brains contents to a machine, and biological and machine integration (its happening now).
Are we just a biological experiment crated by our forefathers whose sense of “time” is irrelevant because they discovered how to live forever?
Relevant links:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raymond_Kurzweil
Ray Kurzweil Explains the Coming Singularity:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1uIzS1uCOcE
http://singinst.org/overview/whyworktowardthesingu...
Extract:
At the very least it should be physically possible to achieve a million-to-one speedup in thinking, at which rate a subjective year would pass in 31 physical seconds. At this rate the entire subjective time-span from Socrates in ancient Greece to modern-day humanity would pass in under twenty-two hours.
Edited by EINSIGN on Saturday 26th February 14:28
I don't think your thread title is accurate
"2040 - Humans to be combined with machines." Would be more accurate.
If you read Kurzweil's work that is his prediction. We will integrate with machines to enhance our own abilities.
His writings on extension of the human life span are also not entirely based around technological integration, there are biological aspects to it also, i.e. understanding and halting the ageing process.
There's a good article in this months Time which details his writings and predictions surrounding "The Singularity"
"2040 - Humans to be combined with machines." Would be more accurate.
If you read Kurzweil's work that is his prediction. We will integrate with machines to enhance our own abilities.
His writings on extension of the human life span are also not entirely based around technological integration, there are biological aspects to it also, i.e. understanding and halting the ageing process.
There's a good article in this months Time which details his writings and predictions surrounding "The Singularity"
Edited by Marf on Saturday 26th February 12:27
Bio mechanics will play a major role too, especially if a host is concerned. US scientis are already producing cultured meat grown in a lab from cloned animal muscle tissue. I think this could take off. If we can make some sort of structure or frame for people who have lost limbs and then grow muscles around it, that would be amazing. The host (person) already has a blood supply for glucose and oxygen along with nerves and tendons. I'm no biologist, but this is potentially really exciting.
slomax said:
Bio mechanics will play a major role too, especially if a host is concerned. US scientis are already producing cultured meat grown in a lab from cloned animal muscle tissue. I think this could take off. If we can make some sort of structure or frame for people who have lost limbs and then grow muscles around it, that would be amazing. The host (person) already has a blood supply for glucose and oxygen along with nerves and tendons. I'm no biologist, but this is potentially really exciting.
Yup, there is BIG money being pumped into regenerative medicine research. As I understand it we as humans do possess the same mechanisms for regeneration as found in lizards, some fish and even mice. However these mechanisms are only active whilst we are in the womb, the key will be finding the genetic switch to turn them back on.
k off.Marf said:
Yup, there is BIG money being pumped into regenerative medicine research. As I understand it we as humans do possess the same mechanisms for regeneration as found in lizards, some fish and even mice. However these mechanisms are only active whilst we are in the womb, the key will be finding the genetic switch to turn them back on.
And off again when the regeneration is complete of course...
ewenm said:
Marf said:
Yup, there is BIG money being pumped into regenerative medicine research. As I understand it we as humans do possess the same mechanisms for regeneration as found in lizards, some fish and even mice. However these mechanisms are only active whilst we are in the womb, the key will be finding the genetic switch to turn them back on.
And off again when the regeneration is complete of course...Marf said:
I don't think your thread title is accurate
"2040 - Humans to be combined with machines." Would be more accurate.
If you read Kurzweil's work that is his prediction. We will integrate with machines to enhance our own abilities.
His writings on extension of the human life span are also not entirely based around technological integration, there are biological aspects to it also, i.e. understanding and halting the ageing process.
I agree, but the point being that many aspects are clearly theoretical, including dates and exactly what will happen. And Kurzweil is the not the only person who has views on the subject. "2040 - Humans to be combined with machines." Would be more accurate.
If you read Kurzweil's work that is his prediction. We will integrate with machines to enhance our own abilities.
His writings on extension of the human life span are also not entirely based around technological integration, there are biological aspects to it also, i.e. understanding and halting the ageing process.
Edited by Marf on Saturday 26th February 12:25
By the time AI becomes self aware the biological aspects might not be required any more, who knows? What I do know is that we humans will have a sharp wake up call very soon.
Any yes the terminator movies are very relevant
EINSIGN said:
I agree, but the point being that many aspects are clearly theoretical, including dates and exactly what will happen. And Kurzweil is the not the only person who has views on the subject.
Oh definitely, there are a variety of views on the subject, about the only thing I can say with certainty is watching the development of these ideas will be fascinating.EINSIGN said:
By the time AI becomes self aware the biological aspects might not be required any more, who knows? What I do know is that we humans will have a sharp wake up call very soon.
Any yes the terminator movies are very relevant
That is the biggest hurdle IMO. How would you ensure that a self aware computer would not turn against us?Any yes the terminator movies are very relevant
r1ch said:
Marf said:
That is the biggest hurdle IMO. How would you ensure that a self aware computer would not turn against us?
Turn the power off?Seriously though, you have AI in control of power generation, security systems, door locks, etc etc. Not hard to see how it could be difficult to pull the plug.
Marf said:
Why didnt Sarah Connor think of that!?
Seriously though, you have AI in control of power generation, security systems, door locks, etc etc. Not hard to see how it could be difficult to pull the plug.
Computers will never be able to recreate the human mind. Computers will always be vulnerable to physical reality, if you cut the cable to a machine it will switch off. Seriously though, you have AI in control of power generation, security systems, door locks, etc etc. Not hard to see how it could be difficult to pull the plug.
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