LK-99 The dawn of a new superconductor?

LK-99 The dawn of a new superconductor?

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redback911

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273 months

Friday 4th August 2023
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This could be a big deal if it works at room temperature and in ambient pressure. If it proves to be correct then the implications and applications are profound. Run an electric current through a loop of this superconducting wire and it might cycle forever as it wouldn't lose any energy due to heat.

New superconductor frenzy seems too super to be true
https://www.ft.com/content/3e76f8a1-cc4a-4794-82eb...


Synthesis of possible room temperature superconductor LK-99:Pb9Cu(PO4)6O
https://arxiv.org/abs/2307.16402

Edited by redback911 on Friday 4th August 19:52

redback911

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273 months

Friday 4th August 2023
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Have scientists really found a room-temperature superconductor?

https://www.economist.com/the-economist-explains/2...

Skeptisk

8,234 posts

116 months

Friday 4th August 2023
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I saw a video on this yesterday. I am pretty sceptical at the moment whether they have really succeeded. Time will tell.

pquinn

7,167 posts

53 months

Friday 4th August 2023
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From looking at what people trying to recreate it are saying, there might well be something in it but the published paper isn't exactly well written & is missing detail.

Also seems that trying to make the stuff is pot luck. Apparently all to do with the key part which is copper diffusion replacing lead in the crystals and causing internal tension (which is the truly novel bit in this to triggering superconduction, instead of needing either low temperature or high pressure to do it), and the resulting material/properties being a bit random rather than consistent.

Could be good though and at least lead to a new area of investigation for materials.

Flooble

5,571 posts

107 months

Friday 4th August 2023
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https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-023-02481-0

My uneducated feeling is that this will turn out to be something other than "traditional" superconductivity, but maybe still a breakthrough.

Anyone who knows better want to weigh in?

EddieSteadyGo

13,141 posts

210 months

Friday 4th August 2023
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I thought this was a good article setting out what we know so far in layman's terms.

https://www.theverge.com/23820077/lk-99-supercondu...

Cockaigne

2,797 posts

26 months

Friday 4th August 2023
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not peer reviewed so write what you want.

in other news Iran have invented a time machine and a quantum computer.

Super Sonic

7,261 posts

61 months

Friday 4th August 2023
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Why's this in np&e?

RATATTAK

12,902 posts

196 months

Friday 4th August 2023
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Haven't we already got a thread on this here
https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...

Flooble

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107 months

Friday 4th August 2023
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Apologies - I did not notice the (Superconductors) after Hoverboards ... had skipped the thread thinking it was about jet packs again or similar.

MiniMan64

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197 months

Friday 4th August 2023
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Super Sonic said:
Why's this in np&e?
Especially when there are already 2 threads running in Science…

redback911

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MiniMan64 said:
Super Sonic said:
Why's this in np&e?
Especially when there are already 2 threads running in Science…
Well, I checked Science! and there was no thread when I posted - there is now. Various mainstream articles exist on this topic (including Economist and Financial Times), so it seemed like News, at least to me. Apologies if I have triggered you guys.

Edited by redback911 on Friday 4th August 19:52

redback911

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Friday 4th August 2023
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Aha...

Hoverboards, get your hoverboards (superconductors)
https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...

I even did a search earlier with no matching results.



Happy for the thread to be deleted...

Skeptisk

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116 months

Friday 4th August 2023
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Super Sonic said:
Why's this in np&e?
God forbid that we might have some debate on NP&E that is not about climate change, LGBTQ+, Brexit or foreigners!

ChocolateFrog

28,622 posts

180 months

Friday 4th August 2023
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redback911 said:
This could be a big deal if it works at room temperature and in ambient pressure. If it proves to be correct then the implications and applications are profound. Run an electric current through a loop of this superconducting wire and it might cycle forever as it wouldn't lose any energy due to heat.

New superconductor frenzy seems too super to be true
https://www.ft.com/content/3e76f8a1-cc4a-4794-82eb...


Synthesis of possible room temperature superconductor LK-99:Pb9Cu(PO4)6O
https://arxiv.org/abs/2307.16402

Edited by redback911 on Friday 4th August 19:52
The answer is literally in your first link.

lizardbrain

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44 months

Saturday 5th August 2023
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If it is the real deal, and i understand chances are still slim,

What is the earliest the bods would realistically confirm it is real (i guess, meaning commercially viable )

When is the earliest timeline it would have impact on our actual lives?



Mr Pointy

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166 months

Saturday 5th August 2023
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lizardbrain said:
If it is the real deal, and i understand chances are still slim,

What is the earliest the bods would realistically confirm it is real (i guess, meaning commercially viable )

When is the earliest timeline it would have impact on our actual lives?
10/20/30 years? Who knows? Look at Graphene - the last wonder material discovered - which incredibly simple (it's made up of a single element) & is relatively easy to make - it was first made using a reel of Sellotape. We are still looking for a way to get it into practical applications.

Super Sonic

7,261 posts

61 months

Saturday 5th August 2023
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Skeptisk said:
Super Sonic said:
Why's this in np&e?
God forbid that we might have some debate on NP&E that is not about climate change, LGBTQ+, Brexit or foreigners!
Np+e isn't open to everyone. Posting things on there limits who can post.

Super Sonic

7,261 posts

61 months

Saturday 5th August 2023
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redback911 said:
Well, I checked Science! and there was no thread when I posted - there is now. Various mainstream articles exist on this topic (including Economist and Financial Times), so it seemed like News, at least to me. Apologies if I have triggered you guys.

Edited by redback911 on Friday 4th August 19:52
Not triggered, just curious, especially now you say you checked Science!, so you think it's a science subject but post in npe lol