If the moon crashed in to earth

If the moon crashed in to earth

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GroundZero

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2,085 posts

61 months

Friday 11th February 2022
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That old question that you had on the tip of your tongue?, well here is a Kurzgeagt video to explain it.

Putting my phsyics hat on for a moment, I think they pretty much got it as accurate as needed for a short vid. But from a politics and human nature angle. I think they underplay the rampant fighting that would occur between nations for resources leading up to the inevitable. I think this would kick off as soon as people bought up all the bog rolls! wink

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lheapd7bgLA

IAmTheWalrus

1,049 posts

51 months

Tuesday 15th February 2022
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Moon is travelling further away from the earth. Also the earth is slowing down, it used to have over 500 days I think.

Scrump

22,936 posts

165 months

Tuesday 15th February 2022
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Another video on the same subject, this one from Scott Manley:

bmwmike

7,370 posts

115 months

Tuesday 15th February 2022
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If the moon disappeared presumably the tides would stop - does this mitigate the effects of sea level rises from global warming? beer

GroundZero

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2,085 posts

61 months

Tuesday 15th February 2022
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bmwmike said:
If the moon disappeared presumably the tides would stop - does this mitigate the effects of sea level rises from global warming? beer
No, they'll still produce endless graphs and "peer reviewed" studies to show the earth is in a "climate crisis" wink

Geffg

1,232 posts

112 months

Tuesday 15th February 2022
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I think the world will always have a climate crisis as it’s a great way to be able to tax us heavily and make a good proportion of the world happy about paying it too.

LimaDelta

6,950 posts

225 months

Tuesday 15th February 2022
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GroundZero said:
bmwmike said:
If the moon disappeared presumably the tides would stop - does this mitigate the effects of sea level rises from global warming? beer
No, they'll still produce endless graphs and "peer reviewed" studies to show the earth is in a "climate crisis" wink
Actually the core would begin to cool at a much faster rate. The moon not only affects the tides, but it is also constantly squishing the earth like a giant squash ball, which keeps us all warm and gooey inside.

bmwmike

7,370 posts

115 months

Tuesday 15th February 2022
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LimaDelta said:
GroundZero said:
bmwmike said:
If the moon disappeared presumably the tides would stop - does this mitigate the effects of sea level rises from global warming? beer
No, they'll still produce endless graphs and "peer reviewed" studies to show the earth is in a "climate crisis" wink
Actually the core would begin to cool at a much faster rate. The moon not only affects the tides, but it is also constantly squishing the earth like a giant squash ball, which keeps us all warm and gooey inside.
Ah good point, my tongue-in-cheek comment about blasting the moon away to solve sea level rises had neglected the wider benefits of the moon. Still, i'm sure climate denialists might still claim its a hoax as the core freezes and we all turn to ice.


Halmyre

11,558 posts

146 months

Tuesday 15th February 2022
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bmwmike said:
LimaDelta said:
GroundZero said:
bmwmike said:
If the moon disappeared presumably the tides would stop - does this mitigate the effects of sea level rises from global warming? beer
No, they'll still produce endless graphs and "peer reviewed" studies to show the earth is in a "climate crisis" wink
Actually the core would begin to cool at a much faster rate. The moon not only affects the tides, but it is also constantly squishing the earth like a giant squash ball, which keeps us all warm and gooey inside.
Ah good point, my tongue-in-cheek comment about blasting the moon away to solve sea level rises had neglected the wider benefits of the moon. Still, i'm sure climate denialists might still claim its a hoax as the core freezes and we all turn to ice.
The hot core is due to radioactive processes is it not?

LimaDelta

6,950 posts

225 months

Wednesday 16th February 2022
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Halmyre said:
bmwmike said:
LimaDelta said:
GroundZero said:
bmwmike said:
If the moon disappeared presumably the tides would stop - does this mitigate the effects of sea level rises from global warming? beer
No, they'll still produce endless graphs and "peer reviewed" studies to show the earth is in a "climate crisis" wink
Actually the core would begin to cool at a much faster rate. The moon not only affects the tides, but it is also constantly squishing the earth like a giant squash ball, which keeps us all warm and gooey inside.
Ah good point, my tongue-in-cheek comment about blasting the moon away to solve sea level rises had neglected the wider benefits of the moon. Still, i'm sure climate denialists might still claim its a hoax as the core freezes and we all turn to ice.
The hot core is due to radioactive processes is it not?
Yes, that's one reason. The other is the tidally-locked moon. IANAA, my source is Prof. Richard Pogge's (Ohio State University) excellent series of astronomy lectures which are available as a podcast (Astronomy 141 and Astronomy 162).

Dastardly Dick

486 posts

35 months

Wednesday 16th February 2022
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Rather than crashing the moon into earth at speed which is going to create a bit of snap crackle and pop, Im more interested in what would happen if we could just land it at a really gentle and controlled pace and let it settle.
Im sure itd cause a wobble......
Would it just break apart and end up like a mahoosive mountain range?

Someone needs to run a simulation.


Turtle Shed

1,757 posts

33 months

Sunday 27th February 2022
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Geffg said:
I think the world will always have a climate crisis as it’s a great way to be able to tax us heavily and make a good proportion of the world happy about paying it too.
Indeed. I think there was a post on one of the Covid threads along the lines of “If I pay a load more tax will Covid go away or does that only work for climate change?”

mickyh7

2,347 posts

93 months

Monday 28th February 2022
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Global Hunger finished.
Cheese Galore!

STR160

8,006 posts

245 months

Monday 28th February 2022
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bmwmike said:
If the moon disappeared presumably the tides would stop - does this mitigate the effects of sea level rises from global warming? beer
Tides would still happen, thanks to the big bright thing in the sky.

Eric Mc

122,855 posts

272 months

Monday 28th February 2022
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Solar tides are a lot less than those caused by the moon. Although the sun is much. much more massive than the moon, it is also much, much further away - and the effect of tides is greatly increased as objects get closer.

On that score, if the moon were to approach the earth, it would eventually reach what is referred to as Roche's Limit. This is the point where the tidal forces exerted by the earth on the moon would cause the moon to break apart. We would end up with a planetary ring system much like that of Saturn.

Nimby

4,905 posts

157 months

Monday 28th February 2022
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Eric Mc said:
Solar tides are a lot less than those caused by the moon. Although the sun is much. much more massive than the moon, it is also much, much further away - and the effect of tides is greatly increased as objects get closer.
If the moon disappeared, would the actual (ie solar) tide become what's now the difference between spring and neap tides?

AW111

9,674 posts

140 months

Monday 28th February 2022
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Eric Mc said:
Solar tides are a lot less than those caused by the moon. Although the sun is much. much more massive than the moon, it is also much, much further away - and the effect of tides is greatly increased as objects get closer.

On that score, if the moon were to approach the earth, it would eventually reach what is referred to as Roche's Limit. This is the point where the tidal forces exerted by the earth on the moon would cause the moon to break apart. We would end up with a planetary ring system much like that of Saturn.
Pretty, but a pain to astronomers.

Eric Mc

122,855 posts

272 months

Monday 28th February 2022
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Nimby said:
If the moon disappeared, would the actual (ie solar) tide become what's now the difference between spring and neap tides?
More or less.

Roofless Toothless

6,127 posts

139 months

Sunday 6th March 2022
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At least it would be easier to get on and off Mersea.