Hubble offline

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annodomini2

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Gary C

13,170 posts

186 months

Friday 25th June 2021
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annodomini2 said:
Turn it off and on again, smile

Flooble

5,571 posts

107 months

Friday 25th June 2021
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No way to service it now sadly.

Pixelpeep Z4

8,600 posts

149 months

Friday 25th June 2021
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Can't someone just pop in and have a look next time they're passing?

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Gary C

13,170 posts

186 months

Friday 25th June 2021
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Flooble said:
No way to service it now sadly.
Get Bezos to give it a kick as he passes.

essayer

9,623 posts

201 months

Friday 25th June 2021
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Quick, launch a replacement!

brake fader

422 posts

42 months

Friday 25th June 2021
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Such a shame Hubble has been a fantastic Triumph, sending some outstanding images back to us.

TonyRPH

13,142 posts

175 months

Friday 25th June 2021
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Apparently all is not lost (possibly).

NASA said:
When designing an instrument like Hubble, to be operated remotely and difficult to access physically, failsafes are crucial.
So, in this case, the situation is not lost either. The payload computer (a NASA Standard Spacecraft Computer-1, or NSSC-1) has four 64-bit memory modules to draw on. It only uses one at any given time; the other three are backups.In addition, there is a second backup payload computer on-board that can be deployed in the event of a major problem.
So, assuming the second computer hasn't died too - and some of those memory modules are still functional - with a bit of luck it could go on running for another 30 years.

Edited by TonyRPH on Saturday 26th June 12:59

xeny

4,669 posts

85 months

Friday 25th June 2021
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Flooble said:
No way to service it now sadly.
Is Crew Dragon's interior tolerant of vacuum exposure if its depressurised to allow a crew space walk, or is that out of spec?

Beati Dogu

9,192 posts

146 months

Saturday 26th June 2021
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I doubt it or the Boeing Starliner capsule were designed with that capability. They could certainly reach Hubble though. The Shuttle was pretty hopeless in what it could reach and they launched & returned to Hubble multiple times. The ISS now operates at a higher altitude than it used to when Shuttle was active, just so it could be reached.

There was some talk a few years ago about using Sierra Nevada’s Dream Chaser spaceplane for a Hubble servicing mission, but that didn’t go anywhere. Dream Chaser has yet to fly into space and isn’t due to do so until the second half of next year. It’s a long way from flying any crew.


annodomini2

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Saturday 26th June 2021
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If they get starship cargo working, curious if with an arm they could collect it, bring it down, service/upgrade and take it back up.

Flooble

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Saturday 26th June 2021
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I think if they got Starship Cargo working the way it is intended to, it would be cheaper to build multiple telescopes to wider tolerances (i.e. cheaper) and then combine their images.

eharding

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291 months

Saturday 26th June 2021
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Doubtful that the optics would survive the Starship terminal flip manoeuvre - they were hardened for launch, obviously, but that was a linear acceleration.

I seem to recall that NASA were gifted two telescopes with similar optical capability to the Hubble by the NRO and have them in storage somewhere - if NASA were going to maintain Hubble-type orbital telescope capacity, probably easier to get a good price from SpaceX to launch those two.

All of the money has been going on the JWST though. Hopefully that doesn't go tits up, but if it does some cheap and cheerful ex spy sats might still be able to enable some ongoing science, but the ground-breaking stuff needs the IR capacity that JWST promises.

Beati Dogu

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146 months

Saturday 26th June 2021
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Yes, NASA was given a couple of obsolete Keyhole spy satellites by the NRO in 2011. These have a 2.4 meter wide lens, the same as Hubble.

The plan is to use one of them as the basis for a new space telescope.. Originally called the Wide-Field Infrared Survey Telescope (WFIRST) is has now been renamed to the Nancy Grace Roman Space Telescope. Usually just referred to as the Roman Space Telescope. This won’t launch until about 2025 though.

https://youtu.be/jPq2VVPjk_U


The Starship flip manoeuvre shouldn’t put much load an any cargo or crew because it rotates around the nose section. Up there, it should feel like a change of orientation rather than anything violent. Rotating seats should be sufficient for any crew. The forces would be more pronounced at the engine end, but they can handle it I’m sure.

Beati Dogu

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146 months

Saturday 17th July 2021
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Hubble online again. type

NASA has successfully switched to backup hardware on the Hubble Space Telescope, including powering on the backup payload computer, on July 15. The switch was performed to compensate for a problem with the original payload computer that occurred on June 13 when the computer halted, suspending science data collection.

https://www.nasa.gov/feature/goddard/2021/operatio...

annodomini2

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Saturday 17th July 2021
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Beati Dogu said:
Hubble online again. type

NASA has successfully switched to backup hardware on the Hubble Space Telescope, including powering on the backup payload computer, on July 15. The switch was performed to compensate for a problem with the original payload computer that occurred on June 13 when the computer halted, suspending science data collection.

https://www.nasa.gov/feature/goddard/2021/operatio...
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Beati Dogu

9,192 posts

146 months

Saturday 17th July 2021
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Sounds like it’s ok now:

“All instruments on the Hubble Space Telescope are now in operational status, and science data is once again being collected to further our understanding of the universe.”

- NASA