"Range gauge" for an electric mobility scooter

"Range gauge" for an electric mobility scooter

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9xxNick

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221 months

Tuesday 16th March 2021
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My father-in-law has an elecric mobility scooter which has a notional range of about 10 miles.

However, the only indicator of how much power's left in the batteries is an uncalibrated (no V markings) voltmeter, which essentially shows a voltage on the far right of the scale until the batteries are almost depleted. As such it's no use for determining whether there's 10 miles or half a mile of range left.

What we need is a better way of indicating the remaining power and therefore range in the batteries.

I'm aware that a more accurate voltmeter would indicate the state of charge of the battery but we'd then need to translate (e.g.) 12.67V to 10 miles, 12.5V to 5 miles and so on.

Does anyone have any practical and inexpensive solutions other than inferring power remaining from exact battery voltage, or any refinements on that idea?

Evanivitch

22,075 posts

129 months

Tuesday 16th March 2021
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Adruino.

Should be a fairly simple DIY build if you have the enthusiasm. Alternatively, dumb volt meter and a chart alongside.

9xxNick

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Tuesday 16th March 2021
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Interesting. That could work very well for this application. Thank you.

eharding

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291 months

Tuesday 16th March 2021
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Any idea how much current the motor pulls? In addition to voltage the Arduino could use an appropriately rated current sensor to calculate how many Watt Hours have been drained from the battery since the last full recharge (and have some reset button on your measuring widget to indicate that you've recharged the system).

You could also rig up an optical or Hall-effect sensor on one of the wheels or some other part of the drivetrain to calculate distance covered since the last reset, and calibrate appropriately, although lighting the tyres up in burn-outs or excessive drifting might skew the results. If you wanted to go completely over the top, add in a cheap GPS module which you could also use to deduce distance travelled.

Arduinos are great, but getting to be a bit old school. Nowadays I'd use something like a Pi Pico and some embedded Python.

Edited by eharding on Tuesday 16th March 17:12

9xxNick

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Tuesday 16th March 2021
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I'd have to check to see what the motor's rating is, but 36Ah of battery capacity is supposed to take it 10 miles at 4mph, so it would fully drain 36Ah in 2.5 hours, hence I estimate 14A maximum draw.

Some good ideas here, which I appreciate.

Evanivitch

22,075 posts

129 months

Tuesday 16th March 2021
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eharding said:
Arduinos are great, but getting to be a bit old school. Nowadays I'd use something like a Pi Pico and some embedded Python.

Edited by eharding on Tuesday 16th March 17:12
Wasn't aware of the Pico. Provided all the modules are available for the job in hand it looks like a great alternative.

cwis

1,205 posts

186 months

Wednesday 17th March 2021
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Evanivitch said:
eharding said:
Arduinos are great, but getting to be a bit old school. Nowadays I'd use something like a Pi Pico and some embedded Python.

Edited by eharding on Tuesday 16th March 17:12
Wasn't aware of the Pico. Provided all the modules are available for the job in hand it looks like a great alternative.
Also have a peek at ESP32 based boards. Can still use MicroPython but you get on board bluetooth and WIFI. More usefully for you, you can also get boards with an integrated screen:

https://www.amazon.co.uk/MakerHawk-Development-0-9...


anonymous-user

61 months

Thursday 18th March 2021
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You need to coulomb count, ie to add up all the amp seconds (amps for each second) that go into the pack when charging, and then do the opposite during use.

Say the pack charges at 10 amps for an hour, that's 10 Amp.hr of charge, and if your motor pulls 10 amps, then you can do that for an hour until you reach the inital state of charge.

Basically, you need a current sensor and a microcontroller of some sort, although i suspect you can buy such a device i suspect

deanobeano

438 posts

190 months

Saturday 20th March 2021
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Here you go!

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/DC8-80V-50A-100A-350A-B...

Check the scooter is 12V
The 50 Amp shunt (which is cheaper) would most likely be fine and a tad more accurate.

I recently fitted one in my caravan - works fine and arrived in a couple of weeks