Space based solar power

Space based solar power

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Scrump

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22,939 posts

165 months

Saturday 14th November 2020
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UK Govt spending money on exploring the feasibility of space based solar power:

UK Govt said:
The UK government has commissioned new research into space-based solar power (SBSP) systems that would use very large solar power satellites to collect solar energy, convert it into high-frequency radio waves, and safely beam it back to ground-based receivers connected to the electrical power grid.
https://www.gov.uk/government/news/uk-government-commissions-space-solar-power-stations-research

Surprised this hasn’t been discussed before.

rxe

6,700 posts

110 months

Saturday 14th November 2020
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It’s an old concept. I have a report dated from the 1970s on the feasibility.

It’s all possible, other than the transmission. You end up firing a jeffing massive microwave beam at earth. Three problems that are largely insurmountable:

- it’s massively inefficient
- anything that flies through it, dies
- if the satellite tracking goes wrong, you have a death beam pointing at Earth

Nimby

4,906 posts

157 months

Saturday 14th November 2020
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Doesn't say what frequency they'd use; won't be easy finding one that's available and not absorbed too much by the atmosphere.
Presumably the satellite would have to be in geostationary orbit, and the receiver close to the equator for maximum efficiency; so not sure how you'd get the power back to the UK.

Beati Dogu

9,193 posts

146 months

Saturday 14th November 2020
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Say....Nice death ray you've got there.

Eric Mc

122,855 posts

272 months

Saturday 14th November 2020
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This is all so 1974 -




Scrump

Original Poster:

22,939 posts

165 months

Saturday 14th November 2020
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That picture looks a bit more detailed than the ones from the latest programme:

From the Frazer-Nash website:
https://www.fnc.co.uk/discover-frazer-nash/news/fr...

MiseryStreak

2,929 posts

214 months

Saturday 14th November 2020
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We receive up to 1,000 W/m^2 of solar radiation at the Earth’s surface. It would be far cheaper and more efficient to just build PV arrays or solar collectors on all the world’s deserts. Beam the energy from there if you like, or if you want to transmit it more efficiently without frying anything that might stray into the path, high voltage cables work quite nicely.

anonymous-user

61 months

Saturday 14th November 2020
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People ranting about 4G aren’t going to be happy at a space based death ray.

I’m no conspiracy theorist but it sounds well dodgy to me. hehe

anonymous-user

61 months

Sunday 15th November 2020
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MiseryStreak said:
We receive up to 1,000 W/m^2 of solar radiation at the Earth’s surface. It would be far cheaper and more efficient to just build PV arrays or solar collectors on all the world’s deserts. Beam the energy from there if you like, or if you want to transmit it more efficiently without frying anything that might stray into the path, high voltage cables work quite nicely.
This ^^^

It's pointless. It's actually the same sort of stupid as "solar roadways" (google it if you haven't already heard about that total clusterfk of stupid) in that the only reason you need to find "other" places to put solar panels is because you've run out of room, and that' s far, far, far, faaaar from the case.

rxe

6,700 posts

110 months

Sunday 15th November 2020
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Space based is attractive because 24x7 power is achievable, and you aren’t locating your energy source in dodgy parts of the world. It’s a bit like the silliness with people suggesting 300 kW wireless charging is possible for electric cars because it works for phones - sure, it works, but you wouldn’t want to be that close to it when it was going on.

IMO space based power becomes viable when you’re doing heavy industry in space. There will be a sudden tipping point when people are going to want to make space vehicles in space, rather than on earth. To do that you need vast amounts of aluminium etc, and the idea of digging it out of holes in the ground and flying it up there is bonkers.

Beati Dogu

9,193 posts

146 months

Sunday 15th November 2020
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It's a stupid idea, so no wonder the government is wasting taxpayer money on it.

Just stop pandering to your retarded girlfriend Boris, you pussy whipped melt and build more nuclear plants.

Edited by Beati Dogu on Sunday 15th November 16:19

Kawasicki

13,471 posts

242 months

Sunday 15th November 2020
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It’s a stupid idea, that will never be economical, but this shouldn’t stop us investing in it. It’s only by making gigantic obvious mistakes that we learn.

havoc

30,893 posts

242 months

Sunday 15th November 2020
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Kawasicki said:
It’s only by making gigantic obvious mistakes that we learn.
In which case our current government are the most learned ever! biggrin