CO2 Statistics UK

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321boost

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Wednesday 1st April 2020
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Does anyone have recent CO2 statistics for the UK following the COVID-19 outbreak and during the lockdown period? It would be better if it was broken down per source category and as a total. I can find articles saying there is a reduction but they mainly gives statistics for China. I can't find anything specific to the UK. The best I could find was naei.beis.gov.uk which is not live I guess? Live would be better.

Sorry if this is the wrong sub-forum for this, I thought this would be the best place to ask.

Beati Dogu

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145 months

Wednesday 1st April 2020
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They're a complete guestimate anyway.

julianm

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207 months

Wednesday 1st April 2020
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It's not CO2 but the daily air quality index is here: https://uk-air.defra.gov.uk/latest/currentlevels?v...
& I think everywhere is low - even in London. Not sure how commonplace that is, but I expect the lack of traffic is responsible for a overall reductions. When London got snowed in during Feb 2009 the figures dropped like a stone!

Beati Dogu

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Wednesday 1st April 2020
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Fuel sales have dropped by 70% they said on the radio this morning.

321boost

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Thursday 2nd April 2020
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julianm said:
It's not CO2 but the daily air quality index is here: https://uk-air.defra.gov.uk/latest/currentlevels?v...
& I think everywhere is low - even in London. Not sure how commonplace that is, but I expect the lack of traffic is responsible for a overall reductions. When London got snowed in during Feb 2009 the figures dropped like a stone!
Maybe I am not reading it right but these do not show CO2? It does show things like NO2. Has there been a dip in the CO2 emissions in the uk following the lockdown?

321boost

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Thursday 2nd April 2020
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Beati Dogu said:
Fuel sales have dropped by 70% they said on the radio this morning.
What effect has this had on CO2?

321boost

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Thursday 2nd April 2020
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https://www.esrl.noaa.gov/gmd/ccgg/trends/monthly....

The CO2 emissions here seem to stay the same. Although this is in Hawaii (The state does have a lockdown order). Why are they not falling? I would have thought they would fall due to reduced traffic.

Although I don't know what the air traffic is usually like but here is a live view:

https://www.flightradar24.com/19.17,-155.51/8

Edited by 321boost on Thursday 2nd April 17:53

Beati Dogu

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Thursday 2nd April 2020
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The Hawaiian islands are literally a chain of CO2 spewing volcanoes, so a few cars and planes aren't going to make the slightest difference.

321boost said:
Beati Dogu said:
Fuel sales have dropped by 70% they said on the radio this morning.
What effect has this had on CO2?
It's immeasurably small.

BTW, I was speaking to a garage earlier and they said their fuel sales were down 70% as well.

kerplunk

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212 months

Tuesday 7th April 2020
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Seeing as emissions haven't stopped completely why would you expect a reduction in atmospheric levels? At best you would expect a slowing down of the increase. Doubtful even that would become clearly apparent in the short term though I think. There's also a seasonal cycle due to NH plant growth/decay and the peak is in May so even if emissions were zero you'd expect levels to increase (or maybe remain flat?) for a couple months yet and then descend, so don't bother attributing a decline after May to CV19 unless you do some serious analysis comparing rates of change with previous years.



Edited by kerplunk on Tuesday 7th April 11:29

Beati Dogu

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Tuesday 7th April 2020
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More interesting would be a study of reduced pollution, especially in built up areas.

SamR380

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126 months

Tuesday 7th April 2020
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Beati Dogu said:
More interesting would be a study of reduced pollution, especially in built up areas.
This is taken from the middle of Sheffield, over the last 28 days. You can see an initial massive reduction in nitrogen oxides and particulate emissions, more recently it's harder to tell.


Beati Dogu

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Tuesday 7th April 2020
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Yes, I saw something similar for Long Beach, California (part of L.A .essentially). Although they have the Santa Ana winds which blow pollution out to sea as well.

Zad

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242 months

Wednesday 8th April 2020
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Strange how the levels of ozone on that graph have gone up though.

Beati Dogu

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Wednesday 8th April 2020
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Ironically, that's likely due to the drop in NOx in the air . A known short term effect.

Plus the sunnier weather, probably.

TeaNoSugar

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171 months

Friday 10th April 2020
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SamR380 said:
Beati Dogu said:
More interesting would be a study of reduced pollution, especially in built up areas.
This is taken from the middle of Sheffield, over the last 28 days. You can see an initial massive reduction in nitrogen oxides and particulate emissions, more recently it's harder to tell.

Sheffield has some quite bad air pollution; it’s unusual in that it sits in quite a narrow valley surrounded on 3 sides by a load of hills, so it tends to trap the pollution, particularly badly when there’s high pressure and no wind.

It’s easy from most suburbs to look down to the city centre and see the haze sat over the city. I reckon the pollution levels have been creeping up recently as it’s been sunny, warmer, and less breezy over the past week or so. Still, it would probably be far higher if things were as normal at the moment.

From where I am (due west of the centre at the top of one of the hills) I can’t actually see over the city as there’s another valley and hill between us and the main central “dip”, but I can see the usual smog/haze down in Hillsborough. It’s been nowhere near as bad since all the traffic levels plummeted.

I have no idea how ozone builds up but would be interesting if someone could provide some info on that.