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Elon unveiled his not so secret Brain Computer Interface tech yesterday.
Initial goals are to get quadriplegic patients interfacing with mobile devices and later on other items via the mobiles.
Animal trials ongoing, expecting human trials to start 2020.
The full presentation on YouTube is worth a watch - starts at 1:30:00
https://youtu.be/r-vbh3t7WVI
Initial goals are to get quadriplegic patients interfacing with mobile devices and later on other items via the mobiles.
Animal trials ongoing, expecting human trials to start 2020.
The full presentation on YouTube is worth a watch - starts at 1:30:00
https://youtu.be/r-vbh3t7WVI
Tim Urban wrote a good article a couple of years back on the immense challenges faced by Neuralink on waitbutwhy.
Neuralink is interesting. I would love to go and work there as I think that it is the next area of expansion as biotech has stalled a little bit. I’m sadly not intelligent enough I expect :-)
It is going to be an uphill struggle not only from a technology perspective but getting regulators and the public onboard with having something implanted that isn’t just controlled by your actions but will aim to become somewhat autonomous in its actions. If they thought they had problems when a self-driving Tesla crashes, wait until an implanted chip does something crazy ....
It is going to be an uphill struggle not only from a technology perspective but getting regulators and the public onboard with having something implanted that isn’t just controlled by your actions but will aim to become somewhat autonomous in its actions. If they thought they had problems when a self-driving Tesla crashes, wait until an implanted chip does something crazy ....
boxst said:
Neuralink is interesting. I would love to go and work there as I think that it is the next area of expansion as biotech has stalled a little bit. I’m sadly not intelligent enough I expect :-)
It is going to be an uphill struggle not only from a technology perspective but getting regulators and the public onboard with having something implanted that isn’t just controlled by your actions but will aim to become somewhat autonomous in its actions. If they thought they had problems when a self-driving Tesla crashes, wait until an implanted chip does something crazy ....
Not only that, it is designed to provide inputs to the brain as well. Emotions, sensory information and perhaps eventually even experiences and memories. It is going to be an uphill struggle not only from a technology perspective but getting regulators and the public onboard with having something implanted that isn’t just controlled by your actions but will aim to become somewhat autonomous in its actions. If they thought they had problems when a self-driving Tesla crashes, wait until an implanted chip does something crazy ....
Not that I’m suggesting any Total Recall parallels any time soon but certainly the first step.
AI software has been around for years, expert programmes such as prolog were/is used in engineering and medical applications to help quickly engineer solutions. Neural nets again have been around for a long time. In many cases these software algorithms and programs have benefited from faster processing and larger memory. But they are really not that smart. An in joke for a prolog programmer is how many people does it take to change a light build...Yes is the answer 
It is currently sexy to talk about AI and Neural nets/links I guess people are boared to talk about Data analytics...(these often use AI programmes)
Musk is A typical American it doesn't matter if Neural link works or doesn't its a lot of Marketing kudos
An example of overhyping capability was a company called spinvox a Voice Recognition platform... it was no better than other platforms but because it was American and had great marketing it was 'believed' it was the best, the truth be told it was average.
I am not decrying AI or Neural software I have programmed and worked with it, just beware of the hype.
There are a number of companies with great AI capability but many are fairly quiet about what they do, its interesting that its Musk that seems to draw attention, if the neural link researches come up with something useful, great but lets see what happens.
It is currently sexy to talk about AI and Neural nets/links I guess people are boared to talk about Data analytics...(these often use AI programmes)
Musk is A typical American it doesn't matter if Neural link works or doesn't its a lot of Marketing kudos
An example of overhyping capability was a company called spinvox a Voice Recognition platform... it was no better than other platforms but because it was American and had great marketing it was 'believed' it was the best, the truth be told it was average.
I am not decrying AI or Neural software I have programmed and worked with it, just beware of the hype.
There are a number of companies with great AI capability but many are fairly quiet about what they do, its interesting that its Musk that seems to draw attention, if the neural link researches come up with something useful, great but lets see what happens.
Toaster said:
AI software has been around for years, expert programmes such as prolog were/is used in engineering and medical applications to help quickly engineer solutions. Neural nets again have been around for a long time. In many cases these software algorithms and programs have benefited from faster processing and larger memory. But they are really not that smart. An in joke for a prolog programmer is how many people does it take to change a light build...Yes is the answer
It is currently sexy to talk about AI and Neural nets/links I guess people are boared to talk about Data analytics...(these often use AI programmes)
Musk is A typical American it doesn't matter if Neural link works or doesn't its a lot of Marketing kudos
An example of overhyping capability was a company called spinvox a Voice Recognition platform... it was no better than other platforms but because it was American and had great marketing it was 'believed' it was the best, the truth be told it was average.
I am not decrying AI or Neural software I have programmed and worked with it, just beware of the hype.
There are a number of companies with great AI capability but many are fairly quiet about what they do, its interesting that its Musk that seems to draw attention, if the neural link researches come up with something useful, great but lets see what happens.
But Neuralink is not AI. It is a Brain Machine Interface.It is currently sexy to talk about AI and Neural nets/links I guess people are boared to talk about Data analytics...(these often use AI programmes)
Musk is A typical American it doesn't matter if Neural link works or doesn't its a lot of Marketing kudos
An example of overhyping capability was a company called spinvox a Voice Recognition platform... it was no better than other platforms but because it was American and had great marketing it was 'believed' it was the best, the truth be told it was average.
I am not decrying AI or Neural software I have programmed and worked with it, just beware of the hype.
There are a number of companies with great AI capability but many are fairly quiet about what they do, its interesting that its Musk that seems to draw attention, if the neural link researches come up with something useful, great but lets see what happens.
Toaster said:
AI software has been around for years, expert programmes such as prolog were/is used in engineering and medical applications to help quickly engineer solutions. Neural nets again have been around for a long time. In many cases these software algorithms and programs have benefited from faster processing and larger memory. But they are really not that smart. An in joke for a prolog programmer is how many people does it take to change a light build...Yes is the answer
It is currently sexy to talk about AI and Neural nets/links I guess people are boared to talk about Data analytics...(these often use AI programmes)
Musk is A typical American it doesn't matter if Neural link works or doesn't its a lot of Marketing kudos
An example of overhyping capability was a company called spinvox a Voice Recognition platform... it was no better than other platforms but because it was American and had great marketing it was 'believed' it was the best, the truth be told it was average.
I am not decrying AI or Neural software I have programmed and worked with it, just beware of the hype.
There are a number of companies with great AI capability but many are fairly quiet about what they do, its interesting that its Musk that seems to draw attention, if the neural link researches come up with something useful, great but lets see what happens.
As per above. Did you watch the presentation? I don’t think this is quite what you think it is. It is currently sexy to talk about AI and Neural nets/links I guess people are boared to talk about Data analytics...(these often use AI programmes)
Musk is A typical American it doesn't matter if Neural link works or doesn't its a lot of Marketing kudos
An example of overhyping capability was a company called spinvox a Voice Recognition platform... it was no better than other platforms but because it was American and had great marketing it was 'believed' it was the best, the truth be told it was average.
I am not decrying AI or Neural software I have programmed and worked with it, just beware of the hype.
There are a number of companies with great AI capability but many are fairly quiet about what they do, its interesting that its Musk that seems to draw attention, if the neural link researches come up with something useful, great but lets see what happens.
Their biggest leap so far is in the density of probes and how noninvasive the procedure is compared with current alternatives.
Toaster said:
Have to admit I did not look at the link
You've got to shake your head in disbelief at a statement like that posted in the science forum, I cannot even begin to fathom how anyone could even contemplate such a post - was beer/wine involved?You tell us you've worked in AI, I'm only a lowly C++ programmer looking to inject some AI into the hydraulic systems I'm working on.
What stuff have you worked on?
JustALooseScrew said:
You've got to shake your head in disbelief at a statement like that posted in the science forum, I cannot even begin to fathom how anyone could even contemplate such a post - was beer/wine involved?
You tell us you've worked in AI, I'm only a lowly C++ programmer looking to inject some AI into the hydraulic systems I'm working on.
What stuff have you worked on?
We all cock up sometimes no alcohol just lazy, nothing lowly in C++ its all programming, when you say inject AI into hydraulic systems, in what context, what are you trying to achieve? You tell us you've worked in AI, I'm only a lowly C++ programmer looking to inject some AI into the hydraulic systems I'm working on.
What stuff have you worked on?
glazbagun said:
Will watch this in a bit as a fan of both Banks and Hamilton who feature them in their Sci-Fi. Ten years ago I'd have been all for it, but from what we've seen post-smartphone I think harm to society would outweigh the benefits
Read 'Accelerando' by Charlie Stross. Prophetic, rather than SciFi, for 2005, at least thus far.Lord help us if his Laundry work turns out likewise......
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