Satellite Explodes in Orbit

Satellite Explodes in Orbit

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Eric Mc

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272 months

Wednesday 17th April 2019
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Interesting video has been released showing that a geostationary communications satellite, Intelsat 29E, appears to have blown up - or at least burst a fuel tank, in orbit.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aqPrVn71IqY

CrutyRammers

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205 months

Wednesday 17th April 2019
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Interesting, I wonder if they'll have any clue as to what actually happened?

Eric Mc

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Wednesday 17th April 2019
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I'm sure there will be some telemetry data available that will show where the problem was - such as pressure building up in a helium tank or an electrical short circuit.

Atomic12C

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224 months

Wednesday 17th April 2019
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Interesting vid. Cheers.

Would you know if all geostationary satellites are monitored like this? Or did they detect a problem first and then start recording it?
Does look like a pressurised compartment of some sort failing completely, given the way there seems to be matter being expelled in all directions.

Eric Mc

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Wednesday 17th April 2019
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I would expect that anomalies showing up in the automatic telemetry prompted them to turn the cameras onto it.

Tim330

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219 months

Wednesday 17th April 2019
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Hopefully none of the debris will end in up a new elliptical orbit that crosses LEO.

Eric Mc

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Wednesday 17th April 2019
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Tim330 said:
Hopefully none of the debris will end in up a new elliptical orbit that crosses LEO.
It is around 22,000 miles above the earth so it's less likely that significant bits of it will make it down to low earth orbit.

55palfers

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Wednesday 17th April 2019
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Baby Shark doo doo doo doo

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Wednesday 17th April 2019
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55palfers said:
I thought the same hehe

Eric Mc

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Baby Shark doo doo doo doo said:
I thought the same hehe
That was orbiting MUCH lower than the satellite in the video. In fact it was only around 190 miles above the earth - the satellite that went pop this week was 116 times further away.

coldel

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153 months

Wednesday 17th April 2019
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Surely it just hit the dome that covers our flat plane planet laugh

Eric Mc

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Wednesday 17th April 2019
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coldel said:
Surely it just hit the dome that covers our flat plane planet laugh
I bet they never thought of that.

peterperkins

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249 months

Wednesday 17th April 2019
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Micro meteorite impact or collision with space junk and puncturing of something vital?
An ever present risk when above our protective atmosphere..

Eric Mc

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Wednesday 17th April 2019
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It's a risk but has an orbiting satellite been ever taken out by a meteorite or other type of space rock?

FourWheelDrift

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291 months

Wednesday 17th April 2019
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They shouldn't have stirred the oxygen tanks.

AshVX220

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197 months

Thursday 18th April 2019
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FourWheelDrift said:
They shouldn't have stirred the oxygen tanks.
biglaugh

As someone earlier said, I expect they had fair warning of what was about to happen which is why they managed to get a camera on it. I think the really impressive thing is that we could get a camera on it and see it as it happened with such clarity. As Eric said, this object is 22,000 miles away. That's a hell of a distant for us to be able to see with a camera and track so well. Not only was it far away, but would be travelling at crazy speeds.

eharding

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291 months

Thursday 18th April 2019
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AshVX220 said:
biglaugh

As someone earlier said, I expect they had fair warning of what was about to happen which is why they managed to get a camera on it. I think the really impressive thing is that we could get a camera on it and see it as it happened with such clarity. As Eric said, this object is 22,000 miles away. That's a hell of a distant for us to be able to see with a camera and track so well. Not only was it far away, but would be travelling at crazy speeds.
It would be interesting to know the type of telescope required to reveal that amount of detail, but as for the tracking.....it was a geostationary satellite, wasn't it? So not really a challenge.

As it happens, there are a number of satellite tracking packages which interface to standard telescope mount software to allow tracking of non-geostationary targets - regular updates of satellite orbital parameters need to be downloaded to keep them up to date - going to have a crack at it myself this weekend if the weather is clear.

In fact, there is a rare daytime solar transit of the ISS visible from here on Monday morning, and the forecast is now hinting it might be clear, so will try and get a white-light solar filter on a telescope and see if I can get a solar ISS silhouette - no need to track the ISS though, easier to just set up solar tracking and wait.....

https://transit-finder.com



AshVX220

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197 months

Thursday 18th April 2019
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eharding said:
It would be interesting to know the type of telescope required to reveal that amount of detail, but as for the tracking.....it was a geostationary satellite, wasn't it? So not really a challenge.

As it happens, there are a number of satellite tracking packages which interface to standard telescope mount software to allow tracking of non-geostationary targets - regular updates of satellite orbital parameters need to be downloaded to keep them up to date - going to have a crack at it myself this weekend if the weather is clear.

In fact, there is a rare daytime solar transit of the ISS visible from here on Monday morning, and the forecast is now hinting it might be clear, so will try and get a white-light solar filter on a telescope and see if I can get a solar ISS silhouette - no need to track the ISS though, easier to just set up solar tracking and wait.....

https://transit-finder.com

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Tempest_5

604 posts

204 months

Sunday 21st April 2019
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If the inclination & eccentricity of the orbit are/were being kept under control, i.e. near zero, then there shouldn't be any crazy speeds to an observer on the earth with a Geo Stationary satellite, which makes tracking a lot easier. I'm not sure why the stars are going by so quickly in the background, Is this just the effect of the earth's rotation when using serious magnification or has the inclination been allowed to wander causing the figure 8 tracking? I only have a 120 mm refractor telescope to compare with.

They managed a good picture of Envisat in LEO after it went AWOL a few years back. That is moving a bit sharpish. The photo shows it intact, so the suspected loss of contact has been put down to meteorite or space debris collision.

WRT tracking the ISS, I once saw it quite accidentally through the finder scope whilst looking for something else. The really cool bit was the second dot tracking closely behind it. A quick google showed this to be the shuttle closing in on it. I probably wouldn't have found it if I'd been looking for it or the cloud god would have spoiled my fun!

Edited by Tempest_5 on Sunday 21st April 23:30

V8LM

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216 months

Monday 22nd April 2019
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The video is time-lapse over 4 hours.