UK Daylight Saving
Discussion
Yep - I commented on this sometime earlier in the year.
It does seem to make little sense for the change to and from GMT/BST to be offset relative to the winter solstice. Why does "winter" extend further beyond the winter solstice than it does before.
They could be equalised, but it depends what you choose to equalise that would dictate the date
Equalise on day length = clocks would go forward on 14th Feb
Equalise on sunrise time = clocks would go forward on the 11th Feb
Equalise on sunset time = clocks would go forward on the 27th Jan
Alternatively you could simply set the date ~two months after and say the last Sunday in Feb.
I suspect the dates are set relative to the meterological winter which lags by around 4-6 weeks behind the day length.
It does seem to make little sense for the change to and from GMT/BST to be offset relative to the winter solstice. Why does "winter" extend further beyond the winter solstice than it does before.
They could be equalised, but it depends what you choose to equalise that would dictate the date
Equalise on day length = clocks would go forward on 14th Feb
Equalise on sunrise time = clocks would go forward on the 11th Feb
Equalise on sunset time = clocks would go forward on the 27th Jan
Alternatively you could simply set the date ~two months after and say the last Sunday in Feb.
I suspect the dates are set relative to the meterological winter which lags by around 4-6 weeks behind the day length.
Edited by Moonhawk on Wednesday 31st October 22:12
Simpo Two said:
As said, the hours of light is fixed by astronomy. GMT is so bloody miserable; we should be on BST all year round. Nicer and much simpler.
Self-contradiction ahoy!Surely by that rationale it doesn't matter what time zone we choose? So why not choose one where midday is more or less midday?
The Mad Monk said:
Beati Dogu said:
It's about farmers mainly, so they have more daylight time to attend the crops etc.
Er, no.Doesn't matter what you do with the clocks, the amount of daylight each day remains exactly the same.
Odd that.
Personally I detest it changing over and would love it if we stayed on Summertime all the time too This was tried as an experiment between October 1968 & 1971, but was discontinued unfortunately.
Beati Dogu said:
It's about farmers mainly, so they have more daylight time to attend the crops etc. Harvest festival is at the end of September. Plus energy saving reasons.
It came in in 1916 during WW1. During WW2, Summertime was +2 hours and Winter time +1 Hour over GMT.
I thought it was down to Scottish milkmen ... It came in in 1916 during WW1. During WW2, Summertime was +2 hours and Winter time +1 Hour over GMT.
If we had another referendum and those of us who subsidised the Picts were allowed a say on whether we wanted to continue to subsidise them we could bin it
We should be on BST always as it helps dog walkers rather than farmers who get money for not growing crops and stay in bed dreaming of how much money they have earn't not doing any work.
Same for kids, in the old days it was so kids could walk to school in the morning with some daylight and not fall into an old Victorian well. Nowadays with SUV lights that automatically come on concerned parents can take their drug sniffing 16 year olds safely to school with laser LEDs. So they cannot argue with change.
Meanwhile us poor dog walkers actually have to take Fido out on his or her biological clock and ends up being in the dark and standing in things like, er, dog poo . Nooooooooooooo
Go figure. Lets get back to nature. Woof.
Same for kids, in the old days it was so kids could walk to school in the morning with some daylight and not fall into an old Victorian well. Nowadays with SUV lights that automatically come on concerned parents can take their drug sniffing 16 year olds safely to school with laser LEDs. So they cannot argue with change.
Meanwhile us poor dog walkers actually have to take Fido out on his or her biological clock and ends up being in the dark and standing in things like, er, dog poo . Nooooooooooooo
Go figure. Lets get back to nature. Woof.
Johnnytheboy said:
Simpo Two said:
As said, the hours of light is fixed by astronomy. GMT is so bloody miserable; we should be on BST all year round. Nicer and much simpler.
Self-contradiction ahoy!Simpo Two said:
Johnnytheboy said:
Simpo Two said:
As said, the hours of light is fixed by astronomy. GMT is so bloody miserable; we should be on BST all year round. Nicer and much simpler.
Self-contradiction ahoy!annodomini2 said:
They do it for school kids and workers in the north of Scotland.
Farmers work when they need to work, whether that is 3pm or 3 am.
Leave it on BST and be done with it, more light of an evening.
ExactlyFarmers work when they need to work, whether that is 3pm or 3 am.
Leave it on BST and be done with it, more light of an evening.
It's not even done for school kids or workers in Scotland either nowadays unless the electric light bulb has not been invented up there yet.
BST 24/7/365.
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