NASA announcement 7th June

NASA announcement 7th June

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Sheets Tabuer

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19,552 posts

221 months

Tuesday 5th June 2018
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Wonder what this one is about, participants include:

Jennifer Eigenbrode, a biogeochemist and geologist with expertise in organic and isotope biogeochemistry and interests in astrobiology. Her current research platform includes investigations of biosignatures in Mars analogs (rocks and ice)

Ashwin R. Vasavada researching the climate history of Mars

Chris webster: interests include Mars chemistry and habitability.

Paul Mahaffy, directory of planetary exploration.

I know it's probably evidence that Mars could have supported life in the past but how cool would it be if they've found a fossil.

Simpo Two

86,748 posts

271 months

Tuesday 5th June 2018
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I expect it will be another 'definitely maybe possibly'. Something has been found, or thought to have been found, which is commensurate with life but might also have happened without life.

Eric Mc

122,699 posts

271 months

Tuesday 5th June 2018
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Another one of these -


FourWheelDrift

89,415 posts

290 months

Tuesday 5th June 2018
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The Curiosity Rover has found a door with a curious symbol on it.







/looseHGWellsreference

Edited by FourWheelDrift on Tuesday 5th June 15:38

Simpo Two

86,748 posts

271 months

Tuesday 5th June 2018
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I'm quite sure that Mars 'could have' supported life in the past. But the chance of a supernannuated Tonka toy landing smack on a rare Martian fossil is basically zip.

Eric Mc

122,699 posts

271 months

Tuesday 5th June 2018
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Unless there are fossils everywhere there is or was water (as is the case on earth).

Curiosity was deliberately landed on a site that was thought to have a strong indication that substantial water had once lain there. The rover has more or less proved that there was at the very least a substantial lake at Gale and possibly even a shallow sea.

So, it's a good spot where some sort of fossils might be found.

In actual fact, I doubt if a fossil has been found - just some additional evidence for the presence of substantial water at that location at some time in the past.

geeks

9,540 posts

145 months

Tuesday 5th June 2018
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FourWheelDrift said:
The Curiosity Rover has found a door with a curious symbol on it.




/looseHGWellsreference

Edited by FourWheelDrift on Tuesday 5th June 15:38
Or this hehe



Fingers crossed for a fossil though would be so cool!

jmorgan

36,010 posts

290 months

Tuesday 5th June 2018
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Probably a metal tube with writing in Cyrillic saying “potatoes” “open other end” and “made on mars”

Eric Mc

122,699 posts

271 months

Tuesday 5th June 2018
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Mark Watney poo?

Beati Dogu

9,133 posts

145 months

Tuesday 5th June 2018
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Simpo Two said:
I'm quite sure that Mars 'could have' supported life in the past. But the chance of a supernannuated Tonka toy landing smack on a rare Martian fossil is basically zip.


Johnny 5 is alive !

Wiccan of Darkness

1,867 posts

89 months

Tuesday 5th June 2018
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I'm watching this with baited breath. I've got a very good idea what they'll announce, I doubt they've found a fossil though.

I'll be placing a bet that they've cracked a rock, examined the chemical data from within and found the remnants of amino acids that have been radiologically examined an traced back to an epoch when life could have existed on Mars.

If they have found a fossil, it didn't come from Mars. Hating to burst bubbles, but Mars is simply too small a planet for life to evolve on the planet. Energy sources are a bit thin on the ground, the best source of energy is the sun (obviously) and the next best source is geothermal.

Gravity acts towards a single point; the contents of a planet (eg earth) are pulled from the exterior towards the interior by gravitational forces, and causes it to get really hot. That bks they taught you in school - about the earth being boiling hot, and loads of volcanoes and dinosaurs - is bks. The earth was stone cold, and as it formed, gravity pulled all the bits together - mainly iron, nickel, silicates and hydrocarbon - and made it get nice and warm. Ergo - earth wasn't boiling hot and is cooling down - it was stone cold and warmed up.

That in turn generates heat energy, and can be used as an energy source for "life".

There's a probe heading to Mars later this year to study tectonic activity. If there's geothermal energy, that will manifest itself as tectonic plates and earthquakes marsquakes and make the possibility of evolutionary life occurring far more probable.

What's tickling me at the moment is this probe costing $$$squillions might simply show what can easily be predicted following the analysis of biological markers on the planet hehe

Wiccan of Darkness

1,867 posts

89 months

Tuesday 5th June 2018
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Either all that ^^^ or they've found the other end of the worm hole that inhabits peoples houses and there's a huge pile of missing laundry and TV remotes that have vanished down the back of sofa's since the dawn of time....

Beati Dogu

9,133 posts

145 months

Tuesday 5th June 2018
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Some of the eco nut jobs in NASA are desperate to find some sort of life on Mars. It would give the excuse they need to avoid sending manned missions and they'd no doubt work to get the planet roped off forever.

geeks

9,540 posts

145 months

Tuesday 5th June 2018
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Wiccan of Darkness said:
I'm watching this with baited breath. I've got a very good idea what they'll announce, I doubt they've found a fossil though.

I'll be placing a bet that they've cracked a rock, examined the chemical data from within and found the remnants of amino acids that have been radiologically examined an traced back to an epoch when life could have existed on Mars.

If they have found a fossil, it didn't come from Mars. Hating to burst bubbles, but Mars is simply too small a planet for life to evolve on the planet. Energy sources are a bit thin on the ground, the best source of energy is the sun (obviously) and the next best source is geothermal.

Gravity acts towards a single point; the contents of a planet (eg earth) are pulled from the exterior towards the interior by gravitational forces, and causes it to get really hot. That bks they taught you in school - about the earth being boiling hot, and loads of volcanoes and dinosaurs - is bks. The earth was stone cold, and as it formed, gravity pulled all the bits together - mainly iron, nickel, silicates and hydrocarbon - and made it get nice and warm. Ergo - earth wasn't boiling hot and is cooling down - it was stone cold and warmed up.

That in turn generates heat energy, and can be used as an energy source for "life".

There's a probe heading to Mars later this year to study tectonic activity. If there's geothermal energy, that will manifest itself as tectonic plates and earthquakes marsquakes and make the possibility of evolutionary life occurring far more probable.

What's tickling me at the moment is this probe costing $$$squillions might simply show what can easily be predicted following the analysis of biological markers on the planet hehe
Not sure what you were taught at school but we were taught that there was no Earth until gases, elements etc all coalesced to form the Earth and the heat was generated by this process, dinosaurs were real as are volcanoes last time i checked...

jmorgan

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290 months

Wednesday 6th June 2018
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Eric Mc said:
Mark Watney poo?
Markski Watneyski.

jmorgan

36,010 posts

290 months

Wednesday 6th June 2018
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Beati Dogu said:
Some of the eco nut jobs in NASA are desperate to find some sort of life on Mars. It would give the excuse they need to avoid sending manned missions and they'd no doubt work to get the planet roped off forever.
Don't think the other nations will play ball. I think China would plant their flag everywhere they can and claim it is theirs.

Eric Mc

122,699 posts

271 months

Wednesday 6th June 2018
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True - NASA does not have a monopoly in space exploration - not even in the US.

Kccv23highliftcam

1,783 posts

81 months

Wednesday 6th June 2018
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I'm thinking....



....it's budget time.

Moonhawk

10,730 posts

225 months

Wednesday 6th June 2018
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They do this from time to time - yet none of these 'announcements' have been particularly world changing.

The one i'm waiting for is the first image from the event horizon telescope - that has the potential to be a game changer.

FourWheelDrift

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290 months

Wednesday 6th June 2018
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Maybe they have found the 9th planet. - https://www.space.com/38431-new-evidence-planet-ni...