Tabi star (KIC 8462852)

[Vyse]

Looks like the star is dimming again in real time.

https://twitter.com/tsboyajian/status/865530700128...


For those that haven't heard of the story.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0v8qFEqsfmg

[jbudgie]

The subject of Horizon on BBC2 last week.

[crazy about cars]

[Ayahuasca]

The theory is that it is surrounded by a Dyson Sphere.

That must create a hell of a suction, deep in the vacuum of space.

[Hoofy]

That's no moon...

Out of interest, why do people think the answer cannot possibly be aliens?

[Ayahuasca]

Hoofy said:

That's no moon...

Out of interest, why do people think the answer cannot possibly be aliens?

The scientists in the BBC docu thought it could be aliens.

But I am not sure it is a good idea to make our presence known to a civilization advanced enough to harness the energy output of an entire star. In the history of our world, whenever an advanced civilization met a less advanced one, it did not go well for the less advanced one...

Edited by Ayahuasca on Monday 22 May 00:32

[Hoofy]

Ayahuasca said:

Hoofy said:

That's no moon...

Out of interest, why do people think the answer cannot possibly be aliens?

The scientists in the BBC docu thought it could be aliens.

I used to be open-minded about the possibility but recently did a basic astrophysics course which covered the Big Bang and the expanding universe, and now, to me, it seems entirely possible that there is another planet out there where a civilisation more advanced or more primitive could exist. Also, on a more terrifying note, as many of the stars we see out there no longer exist, perhaps entire planets with civilisations much like ours have been wiped out (perhaps by the star enveloping their planet or just shrinking to nothing).

[Old Man Fred]

Ayahuasca said:

The scientists in the BBC docu thought it could be aliens.

But I am not sure it is a good idea to make our presence known to a civilization advanced enough to harness the energy output of an entire star. In the history of our world, whenever an advanced civilization met a less advanced one, it did not go well for the less advanced one...

Edited by Ayahuasca on Monday 22 May 00:32

I saw the horizon program and found it very interesting as someone who has a very new interest in this. In relation to the point above, if there are aliens this close, wouldn't it be a fair bet that they already know there is life on our planet if they already have the technology to harness the power of a star. Maybe they know about us and don't consider us a threat as they are so technologically advanced?

[glasgow mega snake]

they probably found out about the NP&E forum on pistonheads and just decided to steer clear altogether.

[Hoofy]

Old Man Fred said:

Ayahuasca said:

The scientists in the BBC docu thought it could be aliens.

But I am not sure it is a good idea to make our presence known to a civilization advanced enough to harness the energy output of an entire star. In the history of our world, whenever an advanced civilization met a less advanced one, it did not go well for the less advanced one...

Edited by Ayahuasca on Monday 22 May 00:32

I saw the horizon program and found it very interesting as someone who has a very new interest in this. In relation to the point above, if there are aliens this close, wouldn't it be a fair bet that they already know there is life on our planet if they already have the technology to harness the power of a star. Maybe they know about us and don't consider us a threat as they are so technologically advanced?

Or they decided after determining the ROI that farming humans wasn't worth it due to the journey so stuck to lower life forms closer to home.

[Boring_Chris]

glasgow mega snake said:

they probably found out about the NP&E forum on pistonheads and just decided to steer clear altogether.

[annodomini2]

Hoofy said:

That's no moon...

Out of interest, why do people think the answer cannot possibly be aliens?

It's not that it could not be Aliens, I think a lot of people hope it would be, but the Scientists studying this are trying to state is there anything other than Aliens that could explain the observed data.

The only plausible one is a giant planet (~70x the mass of Jupiter) with rings and asteroid clouds before and after. But even that seems a little far fetched to me.

[Hoofy]

annodomini2 said:

Hoofy said:

That's no moon...

Out of interest, why do people think the answer cannot possibly be aliens?

It's not that it could not be Aliens, I think a lot of people hope it would be, but the Scientists studying this are trying to state is there anything other than Aliens that could explain the observed data.

The only plausible one is a giant planet (~70x the mass of Jupiter) with rings and asteroid clouds before and after. But even that seems a little far fetched to me.

What I mean is that if you go around saying you believe that aliens exist then you're considered a nut job. I'd love to know how many people who have studied astrophysics (or even read A Brief History of Time) are convinced of the possibility of aliens as a result of their studies.

[glasgow mega snake]

I think most scientists now (as opposed to 20 yrs ago) would agree that alien life (not necessarily intelligent) is pretty likely. 20 years ago we didn't even know if other stars had planets or not. Now we know these are extremely common, and planets that could bear liquid water also seem very common.

[gadgetmac]

Ayahuasca said:

Hoofy said:

That's no moon...

Out of interest, why do people think the answer cannot possibly be aliens?

The scientists in the BBC docu thought it could be aliens.

But I am not sure it is a good idea to make our presence known to a civilization advanced enough to harness the energy output of an entire star. In the history of our world, whenever an advanced civilization met a less advanced one, it did not go well for the less advanced one...

Edited by Ayahuasca on Monday 22 May 00:32

Anybody who can harness that amount of energy from a star already knew about us - probably thousands of years ago given their technological prowess.

[MartG]

gadgetmac said:

Ayahuasca said:

Hoofy said:

That's no moon...

Out of interest, why do people think the answer cannot possibly be aliens?

The scientists in the BBC docu thought it could be aliens.

But I am not sure it is a good idea to make our presence known to a civilization advanced enough to harness the energy output of an entire star. In the history of our world, whenever an advanced civilization met a less advanced one, it did not go well for the less advanced one...

Edited by Ayahuasca on Monday 22 May 00:32

Anybody who can harness that amount of energy from a star already knew about us - probably thousands of years ago given their technological prowess.

Yup

[Sylvaforever]

MartG said:

gadgetmac said:

Ayahuasca said:

Hoofy said:

That's no moon...

Out of interest, why do people think the answer cannot possibly be aliens?

The scientists in the BBC docu thought it could be aliens.

But I am not sure it is a good idea to make our presence known to a civilization advanced enough to harness the energy output of an entire star. In the history of our world, whenever an advanced civilization met a less advanced one, it did not go well for the less advanced one...

Edited by Ayahuasca on Monday 22 May 00:32

Anybody who can harness that amount of energy from a star already knew about us - probably thousands of years ago given their technological prowess.

Yup

Gulp.

[Hoofy]

glasgow mega snake said:

I think most scientists now (as opposed to 20 yrs ago) would agree that alien life (not necessarily intelligent) is pretty likely. 20 years ago we didn't even know if other stars had planets or not. Now we know these are extremely common, and planets that could bear liquid water also seem very common.

Ah, I see!

[Ayahuasca]

gadgetmac said:

Anybody who can harness that amount of energy from a star already knew about us - probably thousands of years ago given their technological prowess.

Maybe we are one of their experiments gone wrong.

[Hoofy]

Ayahuasca said:

gadgetmac said:

Anybody who can harness that amount of energy from a star already knew about us - probably thousands of years ago given their technological prowess.

Maybe we are one of their experiments gone wrong.

Dunno what you mean.