String theory, Simulated Universe

String theory, Simulated Universe

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AClownsPocket

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899 posts

166 months

Sunday 17th July 2016
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Now, can I point out that I find this very interesting, but I am in no way qualified to hold a discussion on it where it gets 'complicated'. I've just been reading this, http://theawakenment.com/theoretical-physicist-jam... and this, http://www.onbeing.org/program/uncovering-codes-re...

I appear to have found something that I actually think has real merit.

Would like peoples opinions on it to see if I am alone in thinking this way smile

I'm off to read more in the meantime.

ZOLLAR

19,914 posts

180 months

Sunday 17th July 2016
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AClownsPocket said:
Now, can I point out that I find this very interesting, but I am in no way qualified to hold a discussion on it where it gets 'complicated'. I've just been reading this, http://theawakenment.com/theoretical-physicist-jam... and this, http://www.onbeing.org/program/uncovering-codes-re...

I appear to have found something that I actually think has real merit.

Would like peoples opinions on it to see if I am alone in thinking this way smile

I'm off to read more in the meantime.
Well I hope no one turns the computer off!

Flooble

5,571 posts

107 months

Sunday 17th July 2016
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AClownsPocket said:
Now, can I point out that I find this very interesting, but I am in no way qualified to hold a discussion on it where it gets 'complicated'. I've just been reading this, http://theawakenment.com/theoretical-physicist-jam... and this, http://www.onbeing.org/program/uncovering-codes-re...

I appear to have found something that I actually think has real merit.

Would like peoples opinions on it to see if I am alone in thinking this way smile

I'm off to read more in the meantime.
Seems a well respected chap at a decent institution but the source sites are a bit of a worry.

I am pretty sure I also read somewhere that purely on balance of probabilities we are living in a simulation, Bostrom first wrote about it in 2003 (I think): http://www.nickbostrom.com/

Unfortunately a lot of kooks have jumped on the comments :-(


AClownsPocket

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899 posts

166 months

Sunday 17th July 2016
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I read that paper a couple of weeks ago. Read it again last night.

'At our current stage of technological development, we have neither sufficiently powerful hardware nor the requisite software to create conscious minds in computers. But persuasive arguments have been given to the effect that if technological progress continues unabated then these shortcomings will eventually be overcome. Some authors argue that this stage may be only a few decades away.'

I would love for this to happen in my lifetime.

Thorodin

2,459 posts

140 months

Monday 18th July 2016
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I thought you could only program for known alternatives as results and that in the event of previously unknown alternatives being produced they would be garbage. Forgive the US Secretary of State-ese.

Flooble

5,571 posts

107 months

Monday 18th July 2016
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Depends, a simulation (e.g. a flight simulator or even a world of warcraft type game) is not exactly a rigid prepares set of steps, just a set of rules ....

cymtriks

4,561 posts

252 months

Friday 22nd July 2016
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AClownsPocket said:
I would love for this to happen in my lifetime.
You are joking, that is a nightmare.

Any mind inside a computer without a robot body is trapped for ever. It would be the equivalent of a "locked in" brain injury patient.

Then there there's all the other stuff that AI might lead to if it did have a body. I take it you've seen Terminator, Westworld, 2001, etc...