Man killed by meteorite
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It's being reported that a bus driver in India has been killed by a direct hit from a meteorite - apparently the first confirmed case of death by a direct hit
https://www.rt.com/news/331687-india-man-killed-me...
https://www.rt.com/news/331687-india-man-killed-me...
MartG said:
It's being reported that a bus driver in India has been killed by a direct hit from a meteorite - apparently the first confirmed case of death by a direct hit
https://www.rt.com/news/331687-india-man-killed-me...
So what about Ann Hodges ? http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2013/02/13...https://www.rt.com/news/331687-india-man-killed-me...
Or as reported by Huffington post
"Supposedly, tens of thousands of people were killed during the Chíing-yang meteorite shower in the Shansi province of China between April and May of 1490. Modern researchers are generally skeptical about the number of fatalities, which cannot be corroborated among the multiple records of this event, but the figure is consistent with what we might expect had the well-documented Tunguska event of 1908 occurred over a densely populated urban area."
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/dr-sten-odenwald/dea...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chelyabinsk_meteor
And a list from here: http://delong.typepad.com/sdj/2008/06/reported-dea...
From Oberlin College, we read:
Meteorite Impact Structures Student Research:
1420 BC Israel - Fatal meteorite impact.
588 AD China - 10 deaths; siege towers destroyed.
1321-68 China - People & animals killed; homes ruined.
1369 Ho-t'ao China - Soldier injured; fire.
02/03/1490 Shansi, China - 10,000 deaths.
09/14/1511 Cremona, Italy - Monk, birds, & sheep killed.
1633-64 Milono, Italy - Monk killed.
1639 China - Tens of deaths; 10 homes destroyed.
1647-54 Indian Ocean - 2 sailors killed aboard a ship.
07/24/1790 France - Farmer killed; home destroyed; cattle killed.
01/16/1825 Oriang, India - Man killed; woman injured.
02/27/1827 Mhow, India - Man injured.
12/11/1836 Macao, Brazil - Oxen killed; homes damaged.
07/14/1847 Braunau, Bohemia - Home struck by 371 lb meteorite.
01/23/1870 Nedagolla, India - Man stunned by meteorite.
06/30/1874 Ming Tung li, China - Cottage crushed, child killed.
01/14/1879 Newtown, Indiana, USA - Man killed in bed.
01/31/1879 Dun-Lepoelier, France - Farmer killed by meteorite.
11/19/1881 Grossliebenthal, Russia - Man injured.
03/11/1897 West Virginia, USA - Walls pierced, horse killed, man injured.
09/05/1907 Weng-li, China - Whole family crushed to death.
06/30/1908 Tunguska, Siberia - Fire, 2 people killed. (referenced throughout paper)
04/28/1927 Aba, Japan - Girl injured by meteorite.
12/08/1929 Zvezvan, Yugoslavia - Meteorite hit bridal party, 1 killed.
05/16/1946 Santa Ana, Mexico - Houses destroyed, 28 injured.
11/30/1946 Colford, UK - Telephones knocked out, boy injured.
11/28/1954 Sylacauga, Alabama, USA - 4 kg meteorite struck home, lady injured.
08/14/1992 Mbole, Uganda - 48 stones fell, roofs damaged, boy injured.
Eric Mc said:
Apart from the rest of your list - which is new to me - Anne Hodges wasn't killed by the impact.
Eric as much as you like to be the oracle on all things space why would you know?Regarding Anne Hodges read the article more thoroughly as the article suggests it was a contributory cause to her death. The article says:
Ann later suffered a nervous breakdown, and in 1964 she and Eugene separated. She died in 1972 at 52 of kidney failure at a Sylacaugan nursing home. Eugene suspects the meteorite and frenzy that followed had taken its toll on Ann. He said "she never did recover," according to the museum.Ann "wasn't a person who sought out the limelight," added museum director Randy Mecredy. "The Hodges were just simple country people, and I really think that all the attention was her downfall."
Edited to say it isn't my list
Edited by Toaster on Monday 8th February 15:28
As usual Toastie, you can't refrain from the personal attack.
To say that Hodges was killed by a meteorite impact 20 years after the date of the impact is stretching it a bit. She died of kidney failure. Maybe the stone that killed her was a kidney stone rather than one of celestial origin.
Sorry and all - but you do tend to steam in with the results of your Wiki searches at the drop of a hat.
To say that Hodges was killed by a meteorite impact 20 years after the date of the impact is stretching it a bit. She died of kidney failure. Maybe the stone that killed her was a kidney stone rather than one of celestial origin.
Sorry and all - but you do tend to steam in with the results of your Wiki searches at the drop of a hat.
Eric Mc said:
As usual Toastie, you can't refrain from the personal attack.
To say that Hodges was killed by a meteorite impact 20 years after the date of the impact is stretching it a bit. She died of kidney failure. Maybe the stone that killed her was a kidney stone rather than one of celestial origin.
Sorry and all - but you do tend to steam in with the results of your Wiki searches at the drop of a hat.
Eric I did say I wasn't going to comment on your posts however you have chosen to comment on some of mine which I have ignored.To say that Hodges was killed by a meteorite impact 20 years after the date of the impact is stretching it a bit. She died of kidney failure. Maybe the stone that killed her was a kidney stone rather than one of celestial origin.
Sorry and all - but you do tend to steam in with the results of your Wiki searches at the drop of a hat.
The article I quoted from was National Geographic not Wiki and they have reasonable credibility in what they write, so when they report that Ann later suffered a nervous breakdown, and in 1964 she and Eugene separated. She died in 1972 at 52 of kidney failure at a Sylacaugan nursing home. and they quote Eugine as saying "the meteorite and frenzy that followed had taken its toll on Ann. He said "she never did recover,"
In the broader sense the stress involved did have an impact as it involved distress, given the nature of distress and the affect it can have on the body as an example creating Cortisol which is highly destructive if produced for a long time by some one in distress. I would suggest as per my previous posting that the Meteor may have had a contributory affect on her death given Eugene's comments rather than Erics opinion.
Another link for you if you can be bothered to read
https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/the-athletes-...
http://www.uptodate.com/contents/cortisol-metaboli...
Edited to say, don't say sorry when you don't mean it!
Edited by Toaster on Monday 8th February 18:14
Eric Mc said:
As usual . She died of kidney failure. Maybe the stone that killed her was a kidney stone
Just browsing a few academic articles, you may find of interest.................What Causes Kidney stones? Could it be Stress http://ije.oxfordjournals.org/content/26/5/1017.fu...
The Kidney is the Major site of Cortisone production in Man http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/j.1365-...
I will get my coat now......maybe not white one
Eric Mc said:
Oh dearie, dearie, dearie. It's nice that some people have the time to trawl the internet ad nauseum.
Eric you don't have to agree the possibility that stress from an incident can start off a string of events that cause a death but that would show a level of naivety and I don't think your that Naive but I could be wrong.
My own Father died many years after a car accident he died of a Pulmonary Embolism but not after years of disability, to not recognise causal links is quite frankly ignorant (not a personal reference to you before you think it is). So whilst the accident did not directly cause the Pulmonary Embolism the illness's he suffered meant that in the end the causal links from the drugs and illness killed him. On the surface of what the article said it looks very much that the Stress (Causal links) caused by the meteorite Killed Ann and they said it not me !!
I do not trawl the internet I am quite specific in my search, in the old days I guess a long time ago, when you were a boy, I assume you used the library, today there is the internet it is where families and school children get information from and where, academics and scientists lurk and they will access Athens search ebsco and many other scholarly repositories where all electronic papers are held, so your issue with someone posting academic links is what?
Toaster said:
Eric Mc said:
As usual Toastie, you can't refrain from the personal attack.
To say that Hodges was killed by a meteorite impact 20 years after the date of the impact is stretching it a bit. She died of kidney failure. Maybe the stone that killed her was a kidney stone rather than one of celestial origin.
Sorry and all - but you do tend to steam in with the results of your Wiki searches at the drop of a hat.
Eric I did say I wasn't going to comment on your posts however you have chosen to comment on some of mine which I have ignored.To say that Hodges was killed by a meteorite impact 20 years after the date of the impact is stretching it a bit. She died of kidney failure. Maybe the stone that killed her was a kidney stone rather than one of celestial origin.
Sorry and all - but you do tend to steam in with the results of your Wiki searches at the drop of a hat.
The article I quoted from was National Geographic not Wiki and they have reasonable credibility in what they write, so when they report that Ann later suffered a nervous breakdown, and in 1964 she and Eugene separated. She died in 1972 at 52 of kidney failure at a Sylacaugan nursing home. and they quote Eugine as saying "the meteorite and frenzy that followed had taken its toll on Ann. He said "she never did recover,"
In the broader sense the stress involved did have an impact as it involved distress, given the nature of distress and the affect it can have on the body as an example creating Cortisol which is highly destructive if produced for a long time by some one in distress. I would suggest as per my previous posting that the Meteor may have had a contributory affect on her death given Eugene's comments rather than Erics opinion.
Edited by Toaster on Monday 8th February 18:14
Simpo Two said:
'Killed by a meteorite' means it hits you and kills you.Not dying from kidney failure 18 years later.She was injured by a meteorite.
Your ignoring the possibility of Causal links and without confirming Erics bias Car Accidents happen all the time in this instance: Takes Pennsylvania Man's Life 50 Years After Sustaining Severe Head Injuries http://www.medicaldaily.com/car-accident-takes-pen...There are lots of causal links for ill health and death
Edited by Toaster on Monday 8th February 20:01
Toaster said:
I do not trawl the internet I am quite specific in my searcyh, in the old days I guess a long time ago, when you were a boy, I assume you used the library, today there is the internet it is where families and school children get information from and where, academics and scientists lurk and they will access Athens search ebsco and many other scholarly repositories where all electronic papers are held, so your issue with someone posting academic links is what?
Rather boring?I liked the idea of it being the first person to be killed by a meteorite can't we just pretend? I mean it's like a pub conversation and they get mucked up by the know-all in the round.
So, starting afresh, ' hey there's that bloke on the telly got killed by a meteorite, first it's ever happened to the poor
hit him harder than a dose of clap on shore leave...' V6Pushfit said:
Rather boring?
I liked the idea of it being the first person to be killed by a meteorite can't we just pretend? I mean it's like a pub conversation and they get mucked up by the know-all in the round.
So, starting afresh, ' hey there's that bloke on the telly got killed by a meteorite, first it's ever happened to the poor hit him harder than a dose of clap on shore leave...'
Oh fI liked the idea of it being the first person to be killed by a meteorite can't we just pretend? I mean it's like a pub conversation and they get mucked up by the know-all in the round.
So, starting afresh, ' hey there's that bloke on the telly got killed by a meteorite, first it's ever happened to the poor
hit him harder than a dose of clap on shore leave...' k it this really isn't a science thread and doesn't sound like the penicillin will help 
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