Court Recognizes Chimpanzees As Legal Persons
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We're 20 years from Battle for Planet of the Apes people!!!!
We're 20 years from Battle for Planet of the Apes people!!!!
Headline: Court Recognizes Chimpanzees As Legal Persons. April 23, 2015 | by Janet Fang
Text: However, the judge amended the court order on April 21, and the words “writ of habeas corpus” have since been struck out. That means the court hasn’t decided whether the two chimps are to be treated as legal persons.
Great work Janet
Text: However, the judge amended the court order on April 21, and the words “writ of habeas corpus” have since been struck out. That means the court hasn’t decided whether the two chimps are to be treated as legal persons.
Great work Janet
Simpo Two said:
And if chimps are now legally humans, does that mean one can have sex with them and marry them?
Interesting misunderstanding between 'legal person' and 'human'. Can you have sex with and marry Automotive Precision Holdings Plc?dudleybloke said:
Will they have to pay taxes now?
How much do they earn?My main concern with this ruling (if it is ruled in favour) is the impact it will have on zoos and the like.
Edited by xRIEx on Tuesday 28th April 10:26
Halb said:
A big impact on s
tty zoos.
What about the impact on good zoos? Imprisonment is imprisonment, whether it's a bare concrete cell or a massive complex with trees and ropes, tyre swings, 5 meals a day and all the internet chimp porn they can handle, if it becomes case law then all zoos may have to release their chimps (and maybe bonobos).tty zoos.What would then happen to the animals? They can't go to private owners (that would be slavery); I can only imagine they would have to be released into the wild - any that were bred in captivity (probably many now in western zoos) wouldn't have a very high chance of survival.
xRIEx said:
What about the impact on good zoos? Imprisonment is imprisonment, whether it's a bare concrete cell or a massive complex with trees and ropes, tyre swings, 5 meals a day and all the internet chimp porn they can handle, if it becomes case law then all zoos may have to release their chimps (and maybe bonobos).
What would then happen to the animals? They can't go to private owners (that would be slavery); I can only imagine they would have to be released into the wild - any that were bred in captivity (probably many now in western zoos) wouldn't have a very high chance of survival.
I would expect the good zoos, like the one I visited would be OK.What would then happen to the animals? They can't go to private owners (that would be slavery); I can only imagine they would have to be released into the wild - any that were bred in captivity (probably many now in western zoos) wouldn't have a very high chance of survival.
Halb said:
xRIEx said:
What about the impact on good zoos? Imprisonment is imprisonment, whether it's a bare concrete cell or a massive complex with trees and ropes, tyre swings, 5 meals a day and all the internet chimp porn they can handle, if it becomes case law then all zoos may have to release their chimps (and maybe bonobos).
What would then happen to the animals? They can't go to private owners (that would be slavery); I can only imagine they would have to be released into the wild - any that were bred in captivity (probably many now in western zoos) wouldn't have a very high chance of survival.
I would expect the good zoos, like the one I visited would be OK.What would then happen to the animals? They can't go to private owners (that would be slavery); I can only imagine they would have to be released into the wild - any that were bred in captivity (probably many now in western zoos) wouldn't have a very high chance of survival.
xRIEx said:
But that's the thing, it doesn't matter if it's a good, comfortable zoo or not, if it were to become case law (I'm not sure if it works the same in the US though) then they (all zoos) are falsely imprisoning legal persons. They wouldn't be OK, they would potentially all be at risk. In the UK, AFAIAA, case law serves as a common guideline for judges trying any future cases.
People get sectioned if they cannot work in society. I would imagine sentient creatures who have no idea of how human society works and/or pose a danger to the lives of others would be the same. The question would simply be over the quality of where they are kept.xRIEx said:
Simpo Two said:
And if chimps are now legally humans, does that mean one can have sex with them and marry them?
Interesting misunderstanding between 'legal person' and 'human'.You see this is the problem of such nonsense.
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