Telescope for a beginner - HELP

Telescope for a beginner - HELP

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Adenauer

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243 months

Tuesday 11th November 2014
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Not too sure where to put this confused

I'm after a telescope for looking at the moon and possibly other planets, the main thing is that I need to be able to link it up to my Nikon D90 DSLR to also take pictures of what I can see.

Budget probably around 300 pounds (less is good), and I want a tripod mounted one so that I can move it around a bit (also outside) without needing to stand it on a table.

Can any of you recommend anything please?

I'm currently looking at this but I have no idea if I can attach a camera to it?

http://www.ebay.de/itm/Sky-Watcher-Explorer-130P-E...


Adenauer

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243 months

Tuesday 11th November 2014
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or would I be better off getting something like this and just sticking the camera on it?

Maybe need a different lens? confused

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Orion-Adventures-in-Astrop...

nellyleelephant

2,708 posts

241 months

Tuesday 11th November 2014
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You'll get a lot more responses in the Science forum. There is a reasonably current thread in there asking pretty much the same question.

Adenauer

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Tuesday 11th November 2014
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Cheers nelly, thanks for moving it. I saw that other thread but if failed to mention the camera thing. smile

Moonhawk

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226 months

Tuesday 11th November 2014
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Toaster

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200 months

Wednesday 12th November 2014
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http://www.rothervalleyoptics.co.uk/celestron-nexs...

Celstron build amateur and professional telescopes a 90 slt is a very good "go to" computerised telescope just get a T piece and you can start taking pictures some thing like this http://www.amazon.co.uk/Celestron-T-Adapter-Univer...

Don't forget some filters the Moon is very bight http://www.amazon.co.uk/Celestron-Filter-Set-1-25-...

also if using a Go to telescope it requires power and you won't want to keep on buying Batteries

http://www.outdoorgb.com/p/Celestron_7_Ah_Power_Ta...

Apart from the handset that comes with the celestron you can plug it in to a PC and control it from it smile

So much choice out there but get a decent make like celestron or Meade you won't regret it smile


Adenauer

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243 months

Wednesday 12th November 2014
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Cheers Toaster smile

Zad

12,762 posts

243 months

Monday 1st December 2014
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For anyone after an interesting Christmas present, this Thursday (Dec 4th) Lidl are selling the Bresser 70/700 refractor with tripod for £70. Mount Palomar it ain't, but there's certainly more than 70 quids worth of entertainment there.

http://www.lidl.co.uk/en/our-offers-2491.htm?actio...


don4l

10,058 posts

183 months

Tuesday 2nd December 2014
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Zad said:
For anyone after an interesting Christmas present, this Thursday (Dec 4th) Lidl are selling the Bresser 70/700 refractor with tripod for £70. Mount Palomar it ain't, but there's certainly more than 70 quids worth of entertainment there.

http://www.lidl.co.uk/en/our-offers-2491.htm?actio...
The 4mm lens will be useless on anything other than the moon.

That said, Bresser telescopes are held in high regard. The optics will be probably as good as you can get for the price.

You won't be able to see any detail on Mars, but you will be able to see four of Jupiter's moons, and you will be able to see the rings of Saturn.


Zad

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243 months

Tuesday 2nd December 2014
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Indeed, I have one. Forget the high magnification lens, but the other is fine for lunar / planetary messing around.

Moonhawk

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226 months

Tuesday 2nd December 2014
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Zad said:
For anyone after an interesting Christmas present, this Thursday (Dec 4th) Lidl are selling the Bresser 70/700 refractor with tripod for £70. Mount Palomar it ain't, but there's certainly more than 70 quids worth of entertainment there.

http://www.lidl.co.uk/en/our-offers-2491.htm?actio...
Never buy a telescope which quotes magnification as one of it's selling points........especially not one as ambitious as what Lidl are quoting.

Generally speaking - under ideal conditions with excellent optics you can achieve a maximum of around 50x magnification per inch aperture.

This telescope has a 70mm objective from what I can tell which is around 2.75 inches (assuming it's not baffled or stopped down). This makes the maximum useful magnification for this scope 137x.

My own telescope - a 10 inch LX90 would struggle to achieve 525x magnification.

Not sure how they achieve 525x anyway. The focal length of the scope is 700mm and the shortest eyepiece is 4mm. That combination gives 175x. To get 525x you'd need to have a 3x Barlow lens included as well.




Edited by Moonhawk on Tuesday 2nd December 08:11

MiniMan64

17,516 posts

197 months

Tuesday 2nd December 2014
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Zad said:
For anyone after an interesting Christmas present, this Thursday (Dec 4th) Lidl are selling the Bresser 70/700 refractor with tripod for £70. Mount Palomar it ain't, but there's certainly more than 70 quids worth of entertainment there.

http://www.lidl.co.uk/en/our-offers-2491.htm?actio...
For under £100 does anyone know of a better option than this?

A friend happened to ask me about a £100 pressie for her husband's first scope, nothing fancy and that seems to fit the bill.

Any alternative options anyone knows? I know plenty of Astronomy but not much of buying telescopes!

IanMorewood

4,309 posts

255 months

Tuesday 2nd December 2014
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Astrobuysell has a couple of second hand celestron 80's sub £100, other than that you will struggle to find much better so for £70 that lidl deal seems pretty good.

Moonhawk

10,730 posts

226 months

Wednesday 3rd December 2014
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You can pick up a new Celestron astromaster 114 eq for under £100.

http://www.currys.co.uk/gbuk/cameras/accessories/b...

I'd avoid the Lidl scope like the plague.

Edited by Moonhawk on Wednesday 3rd December 16:32

Zad

12,762 posts

243 months

Wednesday 3rd December 2014
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Have you used the Lidl one? You seem to know all about it.

IanMorewood

4,309 posts

255 months

Wednesday 3rd December 2014
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One on astrobuysell is a refractor with a goto mount, personally I wouldn't touch a reflector that's less than six inches in diameter.

Moonhawk

10,730 posts

226 months

Wednesday 3rd December 2014
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Zad said:
Have you used the Lidl one? You seem to know all about it.
Nope - but I have used similar scopes in the past.

Small achromatic refractor, flimsy looking mount, quoting magnification well beyond what is physically possible even with perfect optics - it's a recipe for disaster.

I'm happy to be proven wrong though.




MBBlat

1,841 posts

156 months

Thursday 4th December 2014
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This might be worth a read - US biased but some good advice
http://www.slate.com/blogs/bad_astronomy/2014/12/0...