Lunar Rover

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fatboy69

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9,393 posts

194 months

Monday 15th September 2014
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Watched a programme on Discovery last night which was about moon landings.

Does anyone know exactly how NASA got the Lunar Rover to the moon when it appears to be almost as big as the Lunar Module.

Always intrigued me as I have never seen a photograph of the Rover attached to the Lunar Module.

Just asking in case anyone thinks I am doubting that the yanks ever landed on the moon......







Suggested that once. Big mistake!!!!

Eric Mc

122,863 posts

272 months

Monday 15th September 2014
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It was "flat packed" to the side of the descent stage of the Lunar Module.

By simply pulling on wire and hinges, the whole assembly folded out and the wheels sprung into position. Seats, equipment and storage boxes etc were simply "plugged" into their locations on the floor plan and hey presto, a working moon car.

The key to how all this could be done was the fact that everything used on the moon can be made much more flimsily and lighter than it would need to be made for earth use. A genuine Lunar Rover would have collapsed if they tried to drive it on earth.

The astronauts practised using "beefed up" versions on earth.

The recent images taken by the LRO moon probe clearly show the Lunar Rovers of Apollo 15, 16 and 17 parked exactly where they were left by the astronauts.

bigandclever

13,949 posts

245 months

Monday 15th September 2014
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fatboy69 said:
Does anyone know...!
Yep. NASA wink

http://nssdc.gsfc.nasa.gov/planetary/lunar/apollo_...

jmorgan

36,010 posts

291 months

Monday 15th September 2014
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Another thing that phases people are the "tyres".....

fatboy69

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194 months

Monday 15th September 2014
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Thank you Eric. That's exactly what I wanted to know.

Catatafish

1,448 posts

152 months

Monday 15th September 2014
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It's an awesome piece of engineering.

I wonder if it's possible to make a replica in CF with the latest battery gear for the daily commute (space suit optional)?

anonymous-user

61 months

Monday 15th September 2014
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Catatafish said:
It's an awesome piece of engineering.

I wonder if it's possible to make a replica in CF with the latest battery gear for the daily commute (space suit optional)?
Been done! Pretty sure James May drove in on one of his programs iirc?

Eric Mc

122,863 posts

272 months

Monday 15th September 2014
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Back in 1971, ITN (who covered the Apollo missions for ITV) had a working replica built for their TV presentations.

I wonder where it ended up?

Here's a shot of a the Apollo 16 astronauts checking the unfurling process at Cape Kennedy (as it was)




Eric Mc

122,863 posts

272 months

Monday 15th September 2014
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And here's a simplified schematic of the process -


fatboy69

Original Poster:

9,393 posts

194 months

Monday 15th September 2014
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Eric Mc said:
Back in 1971, ITN (who covered the Apollo missions for ITV) had a working replica built for their TV presentations.

I wonder where it ended up?

Here's a shot of a the Apollo 16 astronauts checking the unfurling process at Cape Kennedy (as it was)


I have never seen that before. That looks great. Answered my question.

AER

1,142 posts

277 months

Tuesday 16th September 2014
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fatboy69 said:
Eric Mc said:
Back in 1971, ITN (who covered the Apollo missions for ITV) had a working replica built for their TV presentations.

I wonder where it ended up?

Here's a shot of a the Apollo 16 astronauts checking the unfurling process at Cape Kennedy (as it was)


I have never seen that before. That looks great. Answered my question.
That was, of course, a mock-up shot in the Nevada desert. You can tell by the incongruity of the photographer's reflection in the left nostril of that technician looking at the LRV.

jmorgan

36,010 posts

291 months

Tuesday 16th September 2014
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AER said:
That was, of course, shot in the Nevada desert. You can tell by the incongruity of the photographer's reflection in the left nostril of that technician looking at the LRV.
It was shot in a building, you can tell by the walls......

Eric Mc

122,863 posts

272 months

Tuesday 16th September 2014
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Even though I mentioned that the photo was taken at the Cape, it COULD have been taken at Grumman's Bethpage facility in New York during installation testing. I think one of the figures in the photo is Charlie Duke. It's hard to tell with them dressed up in their "White Room" clobber.

I love everything about Apollo. It was a bright shining moment in American history, a time when what would normally be the technology of warfare was harnessed for a peaceful purpose - although the motivation was getting one over on a potential enemy.

Halmyre

11,571 posts

146 months

Tuesday 16th September 2014
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jmorgan said:
AER said:
That was, of course, shot in the Nevada desert. You can tell by the incongruity of the photographer's reflection in the left nostril of that technician looking at the LRV.
It was shot in a building, you can tell by the walls......
They CGI'd all that out later.

Eric Mc

122,863 posts

272 months

Tuesday 16th September 2014
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I wonder what CGI could have done in 1971?

Although it's rather sad that one can't discuss Apollo without some mention of "the Moon Hoax" being made by someone - even if they are only jesting.

RobDickinson

31,343 posts

261 months

Tuesday 16th September 2014
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Eric Mc said:
I wonder what CGI could have done in 1971?
2001 space odyssey was released in 1968...

Eric Mc

122,863 posts

272 months

Tuesday 16th September 2014
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RobDickinson said:
Eric Mc said:
I wonder what CGI could have done in 1971?
2001 space odyssey was released in 1968...
With not one single frame of CGI.

And, despite the fact that it was state of the art in its depiction of space (for its time), it's depiction of the moon was full of errors.

Anyone trying to fake a real lunar mission using "2001" era special effects would have been rumbled within days - if not hours - of the images being released.

But I don't want to discuss this really. I much prefer talking about the real technology, the real bravery of the astronauts, and the real ingenuity of those who solved the myriad of technical problems that needed to be overcome in a very short space of time.

jmorgan

36,010 posts

291 months

Tuesday 16th September 2014
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Eric Mc said:
Even though I mentioned that the photo was taken at the Cape, it COULD have been taken at Grumman's Bethpage facility in New York during installation testing. I think one of the figures in the photo is Charlie Duke. It's hard to tell with them dressed up in their "White Room" clobber.

I love everything about Apollo. It was a bright shining moment in American history, a time when what would normally be the technology of warfare was harnessed for a peaceful purpose - although the motivation was getting one over on a potential enemy.
A rather interesting link here, spot the star wars reference
http://www.ehartwell.com/LM//index.htm


Halmyre

11,571 posts

146 months

Tuesday 16th September 2014
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The best attitude to take to 'Moon Hoaxers' is to laugh at them. Although Buzz Aldrin's approach did have some merit as well.

Simpo Two

87,119 posts

272 months

Tuesday 16th September 2014
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Eric Mc said:
By simply pulling on wire and hinges, the whole assembly folded out and the wheels sprung into position. Seats, equipment and storage boxes etc were simply "plugged" into their locations on the floor plan and hey presto, a working moon car.
I like that. These days they'd get lots of big computers, a team of 100 people and take 10x as long to arrive at a solution 1,000x more expensive that doesn't work as well. In the Apollo days it seems all it took was one genius with a pencil and an old envelope...