Rosetta Probe

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Eric Mc

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272 months

Wednesday 6th August 2014
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Should be entering orbit around this strange object today. It certainly does look rather weird -


MartG

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211 months

Wednesday 6th August 2014
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thatdude

2,658 posts

134 months

Wednesday 6th August 2014
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It's a duck!

One of my favorite space missions...seems so ambitious, something one would attempt in Kerbal Space Program HOWEVER this was a mission planned long before that game was ever dreamt about!

Moonhawk

10,730 posts

226 months

Wednesday 6th August 2014
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Awesome mission. Some new closeup pics posted on ESA's website. Looks like a very tortured surface. Be interesting to see what happens as it approaches the sun and comes to perihelion next August.






Edited by Moonhawk on Wednesday 6th August 12:09

scubadude

2,618 posts

204 months

Wednesday 6th August 2014
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Fascinating mission, have been following it on and off since launch.

It'll be interesting to see the ducks "neck" close up and find out if this is a true contact binary or just a weird shape, either way its an incredible looking object and the mission, especially the landing is audacious- good luck to them.

FunkyNige

9,159 posts

282 months

Wednesday 6th August 2014
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Moonhawk said:
Awesome mission. Some new closeup pics posted on ESA's website. Looks like a very tortured surface. Be interesting to see what happens as it approaches the sun and comes to perihelion next August.






Edited by Moonhawk on Wednesday 6th August 12:09
When I first saw those images I assumed they were from a radar as they reminded me of the topography images you used to see on Time Team, amazing that they're real images in normal sunlight.
I love seeing the audacious missions like this working, getting something into orbit of something that small is an incredible achievement itself, if the lander works flawlessly then I guess it's going to be up there with our top technological achievements.

durbster

10,751 posts

229 months

Wednesday 6th August 2014
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I've been following this for about six months and it's fascinating. The maths involved in getting the thing in line with it over ten years blow my tiny mind.

It's a good Twitter feed if you're interested, now posting close-ups of the comet - https://twitter.com/ESA_Rosetta


Eric Mc

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Wednesday 6th August 2014
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Wait until the comet starts outgassing as it gets closer to the sun. That should be spectacular.

Simpo Two

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272 months

Wednesday 6th August 2014
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What gravity force would that have?

LordGrover

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219 months

Wednesday 6th August 2014
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Pretty much zero I'd imagine.

Prawnboy

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154 months

Wednesday 6th August 2014
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i love that this kind of stuff gets done. look forward to the discoveries over the next 15 months.

jmorgan

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291 months

Wednesday 6th August 2014
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LordGrover said:
Pretty much zero I'd imagine.
But it is a clump of debris from the solar system, something attracts it and distorts it?

MOTORVATOR

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254 months

Wednesday 6th August 2014
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LordGrover said:
Pretty much zero I'd imagine.
Surely can't be zero or they wouldn't be able to hold an orbit for the probe?

Eric Mc

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Wednesday 6th August 2014
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I'm sure there are still a few million tons of material locked up in it.

scorp

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236 months

Wednesday 6th August 2014
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jmorgan said:
But it is a clump of debris from the solar system, something attracts it and distorts it?
Maybe a fragment from a larger gravity bearing body ?

Fascinating pictures.

Moonhawk

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226 months

Wednesday 6th August 2014
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MOTORVATOR said:
Surely can't be zero or they wouldn't be able to hold an orbit for the probe?
It's currently unknown - but we can get an idea.

According to Wikipedia - it has an estimated escape velocity of 0.46 m/s. Compare that to the earth's escape velocity of 11.186 km/s

So around 25,000 less.



Laplace

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189 months

Wednesday 6th August 2014
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Moonhawk said:
It's currently unknown - but we can get an idea.

According to Wikipedia - it has an estimated escape velocity of 0.46 m/s. Compare that to the earth's escape velocity of 11.186 km/s

So around 25,000 less.
Taken from http://www.esa.int/Our_Activities/Space_Science/Ro...

What is the gravity on 67P/Churyumov-Gerasimenko's surface, compared with that on Earth?
Comet 67P/Churyumov-Gerasimenko is so small that its gravitational pull is several hundred thousand times weaker than on Earth. For this reason, the Rosetta lander will touch down at no more than a walking pace. It will need a harpoon to safely anchor it to the comet’s surface and prevent it from bouncing back into space.

Simpo Two

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272 months

Wednesday 6th August 2014
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Moonhawk said:
According to Wikipedia - it has an estimated escape velocity of 0.46 m/s. Compare that to the earth's escape velocity of 11.186 km/s

So around 25,000 less.
So about 0.00004G then... not much!

anonymous-user

61 months

Wednesday 6th August 2014
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Laplace said:
For this reason, the Rosetta lander will touch down at no more than a walking pace. It will need a harpoon to safely anchor it to the comet’s surface and prevent it from bouncing back into space. [/i]
Why land then harpoon? Could they not get close, then harpoon it and reel themselves in to the surface?

Sorry in advance if that's stupid, I don't have much knowledge of this topic . hehe

FunkyNige

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282 months

Wednesday 6th August 2014
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el stovey said:
Why land then harpoon? Could they not get close, then harpoon it and reel themselves in to the surface?

Sorry in advance if that's stupid, I don't have much knowledge of this topic . hehe
I'm guessing -
1) throwing a harpoon out forwards will make the probe go backwards, or at least slow down a bit too much
2) weight is everything when it comes to space probes and the mission controllers would rather have .5kg of sensors rather than .5kg of rope.