Quantum entanglement Dispelling the myth of FTL transmission

Quantum entanglement Dispelling the myth of FTL transmission

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ExplorerII

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279 posts

141 months

Monday 28th July 2014
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Makes sense at last. Very interesting.

http://observationdeck.io9.com/corpore-metals-delu...

RegMolehusband

4,018 posts

264 months

Monday 28th July 2014
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I was saying this to Mrs. Molehusband only this evening!

Simpo Two

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272 months

Monday 28th July 2014
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Suddenly the bible is seeming quite normal nuts

AA999

5,180 posts

224 months

Tuesday 29th July 2014
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Wish I could really get my head around the depths of quantum mechanics and its implications.

I still can't fully grasp the Pauli Exlusion Principal which Brian Cox mentioned on a BBC program a while ago.....in that no electron can exist with the same energy state as another, no matter how far apart they are.
With the example given that if one electron were to be at one side of the universe and another electron being at the other side of the universe, with all the distance and other trillions of particles between them that if one of those mentioned electrons were to change to an energy state to that of the other, it would either 'know' it can't or that the other electron would automatically change to accommodate the balance.

(I think that is how it was explained anyhow).


How the FLYING RAT TURDS could they [the electrons] 'know' from that distance what each other is 'doing' if 'information' can travel only at the speed of light?


Gandahar

9,600 posts

135 months

Tuesday 29th July 2014
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"No Magic FTL Radios

So, knowing and accepting all that, here's why it can't be used for FTL communications."


Surely there will be a smartphone rather than a radio that can do it smile

Never ever say in science "you cannot do it" somewhere someone will prove it can, even if you have to be on an event horizon tuning your radio in to the Hot FM


ExplorerII

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279 posts

141 months

Thursday 31st July 2014
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AA999 said:
Wish I could really get my head around the depths of quantum mechanics and its implications.

I still can't fully grasp the Pauli Exlusion Principal which Brian Cox mentioned on a BBC program a while ago.....in that no electron can exist with the same energy state as another, no matter how far apart they are.
With the example given that if one electron were to be at one side of the universe and another electron being at the other side of the universe, with all the distance and other trillions of particles between them that if one of those mentioned electrons were to change to an energy state to that of the other, it would either 'know' it can't or that the other electron would automatically change to accommodate the balance.

(I think that is how it was explained anyhow).


How the FLYING RAT TURDS could they [the electrons] 'know' from that distance what each other is 'doing' if 'information' can travel only at the speed of light?
The Pauli exclusion principle relates to fermions, which includes electrons, orbiting the same atom afaik.

Prawnboy

1,326 posts

154 months

Thursday 31st July 2014
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OW, my brain.

Twobad

69 posts

181 months

Thursday 31st July 2014
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ExplorerII said:
AA999 said:
Wish I could really get my head around the depths of quantum mechanics and its implications.

I still can't fully grasp the Pauli Exlusion Principal which Brian Cox mentioned on a BBC program a while ago.....in that no electron can exist with the same energy state as another, no matter how far apart they are.
With the example given that if one electron were to be at one side of the universe and another electron being at the other side of the universe, with all the distance and other trillions of particles between them that if one of those mentioned electrons were to change to an energy state to that of the other, it would either 'know' it can't or that the other electron would automatically change to accommodate the balance.

(I think that is how it was explained anyhow).


How the FLYING RAT TURDS could they [the electrons] 'know' from that distance what each other is 'doing' if 'information' can travel only at the speed of light?
The Pauli exclusion principle relates to fermions, which includes electrons, orbiting the same atom afaik.
That is my understanding too. The electrons have to be in the same quantum system, which is usually an atom. Without the Exclusion Principal all the electrons in an atom would fall into the base energy level and you'd have no electron shells or chemistry as we know it.

Entangled electrons are a system in their own right and so can interact over distances. However, once you investigate one of the pair they cease to be entangled and a quantum system and the Exclusion Principle no longer applies to them.


Edited by Twobad on Thursday 31st July 12:18